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INDEPENDENCE DAY!

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Lyndiloo Thu 30-Jan-20 04:35:37

Hurrah! We're getting OUT at last!

But it seems strange to me that there is so little talk/news on the media about this. Before the General Election everything was about Brexit. To the point that even I got sick to death of it! But it's all gone quiet since then. Are there to be no celebrations from all those who voted to leave? (Sad that Big Ben won't even mark this historic event.)

(I was talking to a young woman the other day, and she didn't even know that we were leaving the EU on Friday!)

I can't really celebate in style, as most of my family wanted to remain -otherwise I would have had a party! So it will be a bit of a damp squib for me!

I shall still open a bottle of champers and toast this great country of ours - our democracy, our integrity - and now, at last, our freedom from a corrupt and self-serving feudalistic state.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:32:38

Grandma70s Fri 31-Jan-20 10:42:04
It’s a sad day for the country, but cheer yourselves up with the thought that it’s also, apparently, National Hot Chocolate Day.

Something exceedingly pleasant. Unlike the comments on this thread from those who think this is the best thing for the UK.

growstuff Fri 31-Jan-20 11:32:12

Have you opened your Prosecco already ananimous?

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:31:01

Funding? Then it is not a real business, sorry.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:28:32

My Japanese friend is employed as a researcher on EU funding. She has been living in the UK for 20 years and has paid taxes/bought a flat etc. She was told to stay on her role & on her funding she had to move to Germany. So she now pays taxes to Germany. Her husband has also moved to Germany and also pay taxes into the German system.

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:28:24

The best benefit is: we have INDEPENDANCE now, hurrah!

In the coming years we will vote again and again until we drain our own swamp of the quisling element destroying our very fabric of the UK.

Come on you moaning minerva's cheer up for goodness sake!

The battle is won!

The EU will fall... like a domino effect.
smile

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:27:19

aprilrose Fri 31-Jan-20 08:46:07 It is an oxymoron to the rational thinking to think that leaving the world's largest trading block gives us something to smile about.

What cheer is there in leaving the group that ranks first in both inbound and outbound international investments?

Why throw a party because we are no longer part of the top trading partner for 80 countries. While by comparison, we are supposed to consider the United States of America - top trading partner for a little over 20 countries - is seen to be great if they dictate a trade "agreement" with us?

Why light fireworks because we are leaving the largest economy in the world?

Tell me, rather than being puerile, why that should bring us good cheer?

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:26:17

WTF ananimous? Talk about displaying your ignorance.

University researchers apply for grants - these can be hundreds of thousands of pounds & are often international. Using that money they may procure outside businesses to provide services towards that research work.

Without that research funding researchers lose jobs (a lot of posts are funded specifically around particular projects) and universities lose funding.

Ilovecheese Fri 31-Jan-20 11:23:08

ananimous your post at 11.19 today has got to be the most unpleasant I have ever seen on Gransnet.

ananimous Fri 31-Jan-20 11:19:50

I don't think it's a (real) business that's gone bust if it has been "Funded" - Just capitalism in practise, sadly for the business model.
Some people are just not good in business - nothing to do with Brexit.

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 11:17:28

Come on then Chestnut post a few of these benefits. Long term, short term, any term, any benefit. Just saying there will be lots doesn't mean a thing.

Chestnut Fri 31-Jan-20 11:14:48

trisher: ......a short list of all the benefits that will swing into action tomorrow and in the next 11 months.
You have just demonstrated your inability to see beyond the end of your nose.
There will be no benefits this year because we will not have fully left. Even then, it will take time for the dust to settle and for things to change. These are long term strategies which will benefit the country into the future.

This is clearly the problem that remainers have, they cannot see long term at all, they can only visualise short term. This proves that leavers are people with vision while remainers are not.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:13:31

NO optimism on this thread.? Only doom and gloom!

So optimism is only defined as those celebrating leave Gingster. What a strange definition.

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 10:57:35

How "lemon grove"? Come on post a few things that will improve when we are out.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 10:56:49

You know those holding parties tonight could silence all us Remainers if they could post at least a short list of all the benefits that will swing into action tomorrow and in the next 11 months. They can't because there aren't any

YES! I have been asking for this list as well.

lemongrove Fri 31-Jan-20 10:50:29

Woe, woe and thrice woe!
All Cassandras out there may well be pleasantly surprised in a few years time.

lostinfrance Fri 31-Jan-20 10:47:48

There will be no celebrating here.

We've already have huge family fall outs over this.

My generation of the family (in our 40s and 50s) voted to remain. The older ones to leave.

So our teenager and early 20s children now get limited options in their future careers. They won't be able to study, work and live in other European countries quite as easily as they could have.

It's all been a big bloody mess - sensationalised by the tabloid newspapers which some read as gospel. Why vote for the unknown?

Ugh.

trisher Fri 31-Jan-20 10:47:07

You know those holding parties tonight could silence all us Remainers if they could post at least a short list of all the benefits that will swing into action tomorrow and in the next 11 months. They can't because there aren't any.
So forgive me if I'm not celebrating leaving an organisation that has brought into my life many benefits and people from all over Europe who have cared for my ill relatives and provided services and opportunities.

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 10:46:41

Thank you grandma70s - that sounds the perfect antidote - you have given me the excuse I need to wallow in chocolate gringrin

Nezumi65 Fri 31-Jan-20 10:45:02

Chlorinated chicken, being a vassal of the US, binning the Human Rights Act, disrupted medicines supply, increased mechanisation of farms (vs crops left unpicked), families split up, economic downturn, loss of freedom of movement.

Unless you get a particularly big thrill from blue passports it doesn’t look that much like we’re going to be doing the best for the UK.

Grandma70s Fri 31-Jan-20 10:42:04

It’s a sad day for the country, but cheer yourselves up with the thought that it’s also, apparently, National Hot Chocolate Day.

lemongrove Fri 31-Jan-20 10:31:53

Oh the irony growstuff ?
After your post about ‘children’s parties’ tonight!

You have a good day too.??

lemongrove Fri 31-Jan-20 10:30:15

We will become a country that does the best for the UK, it won’t be poorer for doing that, that’s for sure.

growstuff Fri 31-Jan-20 10:30:13

Fortunately most people in this country have better things to to do than be deliberately sneering and nasty. Do have a wonderful day lemongrove!

growstuff Fri 31-Jan-20 10:28:17

Really lemongrove? hmm I'm used to your gratuitous insults, but maybe you'd care to expand in what way I'm a "sore loser".

lemongrove Fri 31-Jan-20 10:27:36

Fortunately, most people in this country want to get on with life and not waste their time in bitterness.