INDEPENDENCE DAY!

I suppose the Corona virus has dominated the news recently but like Lyndiloo I have been surprised there has been virtually no mention of our leaving this Friday.

I am pleased, relieved, because at times it did seem as if it would never happen.

Although I obviously realise that it’s not what some wanted, I am optimistic that things will settle down and the divisions will be healed.

After all, despite what some seem to think, we are still part of Europe, aren’t we?

I too have noticed how quiet the media are. I think they only like reporting conflict and if there isn't any they try to whip it up. Now that there is a big majority, no knife edge votes and humiliating defeats to report so really just boring old politics as usual!
I am glad we will be out but no celebrating for me just relief. And the hard work starts now.

I think everyone should look to their pets on Friday night as doubtless some Brexit twits with no brain cells whatsoever will be letting off fireworks from 11pm to midnight.

However, like others I have not heard of any organised events here in North Somerset.

Lyndiloo & aprilrose
Our celebrations are all in hand ?????( and food,of course ) ?
Fortunately it's being held in a rural location so we can make as much noise as we want and let the fireworks off.

Watched the Nick Robinson documentary, Them and Us I think it was called. Made and broadcast just prior to the referendum, going back over the decades as to why we joined originally. Very interesting viewing, and hearing various politicians from all countries discussing it all pre Brexit.

april I am interested - so to state “ you do not want to know “ is inaccurate. You can’t read my thoughts any more than you state I can’t read yours. Ok I’m interested - what are your thoughts on “you remain minded people”. ?

I'm sorry we're leaving the EU. I enjoyed being part of Europe. I voted to join the Common Market and was happy to be part of the continent of Europe.
I was disappointed with the campaign (understatement there) but accepted the result. I hope things work out better than we fear but I still believe it was a huge mistake.

* don’t want to spell it out but from your negative remarks I’m calculating that your thoughts on “ you remain minded people ” are not pleasant or conciliatory*

I think you have read more negativity in there than I have actually stated. Your perspective therefore I suspect is that any thoughts from leave minded people must be negative.

I simply said and I restate, you do not know and you do not want to know

My statement - "Your do not know" is one of fact, you do not know....... "You really do not want to know" means precisely that - you are not interested...... ( I know from what is said here remain minded are not interested in the thoughts of leave minded).

Some old soundbites. The EU has elected members by PR so arguably more democratic than our own U.K. it has unelected civil service but so do we plus we have an unelected House of Lords.

I would so much like to know what is going to be missed by leaving the unelected, undemocratic, corrupt EU.

None whatsoever, MawB.

Of course, we're not going to be 'independent' on 1st Feb. For a start, there's the 'transition' period of 11 months when we remain to all intents and purposes as a member state but with no say on any new EU policies/regulations we will have to observe.

After that we'll be dependent on whatever crumbs we can pick up from rich countries via trade deals. As a small country with little to trade we won't be calling the shots.

So much for 'independence' ...

I wonder if there is ANY chance we might now see the end of posts in this "tone of voice", from either side?
<sigh>

Would that be French Champagne, Lindiloo imported under E.U. trade agreements, or will you be toasting "this great country of ours" with English sparkling wine?

The best we can hope for is damage limitation. Nothing to celebrate here. Moving on.

april
“ I may not speak but I still think. You really do not know or want to know what I am really thinking about you remain minded people “
I don’t want to spell it out but from your negative remarks I’m calculating that your thoughts on “ you remain minded people ” are not pleasant or conciliatory.

No celebrations from me either. A sad day for me, my family and the majority of my friends (only one of my friends (my best friend, and she is still my best friend) voted to leave).

Fwiw, I will be having a bonfire on Saturday as it seems the weather will permit it . I love bonfire parties and will certainly be holding one with my familythat night.

Friday is not going to be a good day for a Bonfire. However, before anyone gets on their high horse, my bonfire is to burn off some trees and wood debris from the storms a couple /three weeks ago. They trees have been all out and now need burning.

Ginny42, why would anyone stop shopping at a German supermarket? Though I prefer Ocado and Tesco myself.

I didn’t consult my family before I voted to remain. I was surprised to find later that one voted to leave, but it never occurred to me that she should have asked me first.

aprilrose, remain minded people shouldn’t be lumped together any more than leavers should.

This is going to be one of “those” threads, isn’t it? I’m glad I’m going out.

@veganstock - do you? do you really? Or do you just think you do based on some schema you have created of they " type" of person I must be? I believe it would be difficult for you to know what I really think since I have not committed my views here. I have spoken only generally of what I have heard, seen and experienced. Maybe you are confusing me with others who have been more vocal?

april we know what you think.

sorry about the typo's. My fat , stiff fingers are not doing well on this small keyboard. I need to move to a larger one.

No celebrations here either. I will just be hoping that all my worries about it will be proved wrong.

I think that there is still a great deal of latent hostility in this country.

Those of the remain persuassion have failed to "put a sock in the megaphone" as they were asked to to and those who have all along wanted to leave the EU and have been thwarted for three and a half years ( and are still being told to be quiet and heal the rift) are not going to come together easily.
I think there will be a lot more hositlity to come as many who voted leave want to be able to speak freely as those who wated to remain have done. Many feel they are being asked to forgive to easily - thats is just what I pick up from those around me in real life.

As for Friday. Yes, I will be quietly celebrating. Whilst I will not be "rubbing noses " of anyone in any of my views publically, beleive me, after all that has gone on since 2016 I will indeed dream of the many things I would like to say to those remain minded who have insulted me consistently across those three years ( and are still trying to be deliberately provocative and offensive).

I may not speak but I still think. You really do not know or want to know what I am really thinking about you remain minded people

I can't really celebate in style, as most of my family wanted to remain -otherwise I would have had a party! So it will be a bit of a damp squib for me!

You have said it all in that paragraph. Did you even consider why your family wished to remain? I know another old lady who voted to leave and I asked what her family thought. 'Oh I didn't ask them' was her reply. So she wasn't concerned about how it was going to impact on their lives.

Leaving is going to affect my life a great deal, so no celebrations here. I wonder if folks will still be buying from German supermarkets here?