INDEPENDENCE DAY!

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As yours have in the past LG and I promise I am always watching them.

Amen to that growstuff .....but when they go too far they get their posts deleted.

It's a real shame how many twisted and bigoted people think they have "carte blanche" to be offensive.

There are more important things in the life we all have left than posts deleted by Gransnet. Nevertheless, it's a shame.

Me too Nezumi although some idiot thought I really meant cocaine rather than them being high on "Brexit" and got that removed.

The use of mental did make me cringe. Maybe my learning disabled son just needs to get used to it.

Kandinsky says that 'Some remainers actually sound mental'. But it's ok to say that. Supposedly....

This will otherwise become an uphill battle full of spite and resentment. It really is time now to pull together.

Words as empty and meaningless as the soundbites that persuaded so many to vote Leave.

What the hell difference will the anger and implacable opposition to this stupidity, felt by many Remainers, make to the outcome of Brexit? Will the negative vibes have some sort of malign influence on the whole process?

What form is this 'battle' going to take? What are we supposed to pull on to produce the desired outcome.

I'm really not sure what is worse about Leaver's posts; the insults or the banality...

Urmstongran, it's really upsetting that people have to be concerned about getting the correct medication, job losses (Nissan) huge employer in the NE, I could go on...
I suppose it's harder to be nice, if your very existence is threatened
Anyway, thank you, I don't find you to be one of those, that hold the cat's arse to the fire ?

Most epilepsy meds cannot he brand swapped without risk. That is just fact (see NICE or read fact sheets from other countries such as Australia).

So if Brexit affects the supply of epilepsy meds (& many are manufactured in the EU) then people will have additional seizures as a result. Again just fact.

As Barmey has said all we can do is cross our fingers. (Let’s hope the government doesn’t let us down Barmey).

Dollymac as someone who voted Leave I’m honestly hoping much of this antagonism dies away now. We need to move on as a nation. It’s time to be nicer to one another.

Barmeyoldbat I hope so too. Different experts hold different opinions regarding pharma after exiting the E.U. I can understand your concern here and hope it is unnecessary.

Nezumi65, my daughter also has epilepsy and takes a cocktail of 3 different meds, plus she is type diabetic and has insulin 3 times a day. I am also hoping it doesn't muck up her meds its a real worry but fingers crossed it will work ok. .

It's very true to acknowledge that we don't know what will happen now
It's also true to acknowledge that if we had remained in the EU, people would not be faced with these dreadful concerns. I feel it's important to recognise this
I don't really feel angry, I feel, I don't know, disappointed in people, in their casual dismissal of another person's worries
It would be helpful to the 'coming together ' and healing process, for the jingoistic remarks and right wing rhetoric, to ease up a little
Triumphalism is never a good look...

Ah Labaikyou don’t have the monopoly on compassion nor intellect.

I too worked for the NHS for 45y. I read about the pharma worries at the time of the referendum. I just chose to believe different expert opinion on the matter.

Let it rest awhile now eh? Put the burden down for a bit. Let’s reflect and yes, dare to be hopeful.

It must be exhausting being angry all the time.

Might be, could be, etc Labaik, you don’t actually know what will happen but are determined to look on the black side.Your choice, and we were told upthread that sympathy wasn’t needed.

Lots of empathy from lemongrove, I see.....

No; you have voted in a way that is causing misery to a lot of people and you can now own it. The NHS pointed out that there might be problems but, as with everything else it was just 'project fear'. It was pointed out that there might be a problem with radiation treatment etc. Those of us that voted remain took things like that on board when making our decision. You did not so I think the word 'empathy' is misplaced. I used to work for the NHS so I know full well how important it is that certain drugs, especially those for epilepsy and schizophrenia must not switch between brands and they were the ones that, because they are very expensive tend not to be stockpiled by medical practices therefore maintaining the supply chain is very important.

Well Urmstongran we have had Independence Day, against all the odds it did happen? so nothing much to gain now from any Brexit threads from now on, hooray ( although am sure they will run and run.)
The government team and the EU team can get on with trade talks this year without ( we hope) a blow by blow narration daily, as it has been up to now.

Oh Labaik. You disappoint me.

I only said what I did because Nezuni65 told us the medication was manufactured in the E.U.

Can we not at least try to come together and be kinder, on this aspect if nothing else?

This will otherwise become an uphill battle full of spite and resentment. It really is time now to pull together.

'I hope and trust the E.U. won’t imperil pharma. It’s a huge industry and surely pragmatism will prevail' So, it will be the EU's fault if the medication isn't available? Never the fault of those who voted leave after being warned that things like this might happen..

And thank you

Yes me too. Should be okay until next December anyway. We had some hairy moments this year (something to do with dropping pound?) but now order the next one as soon as we have picked up the current batch. If his meds are ever changed I will ask then about country of origin, if taking the risk to change it would be worth considering then.