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INDEPENDENCE DAY!

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Lyndiloo Thu 30-Jan-20 04:35:37

Hurrah! We're getting OUT at last!

But it seems strange to me that there is so little talk/news on the media about this. Before the General Election everything was about Brexit. To the point that even I got sick to death of it! But it's all gone quiet since then. Are there to be no celebrations from all those who voted to leave? (Sad that Big Ben won't even mark this historic event.)

(I was talking to a young woman the other day, and she didn't even know that we were leaving the EU on Friday!)

I can't really celebate in style, as most of my family wanted to remain -otherwise I would have had a party! So it will be a bit of a damp squib for me!

I shall still open a bottle of champers and toast this great country of ours - our democracy, our integrity - and now, at last, our freedom from a corrupt and self-serving feudalistic state.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 21:06:37

I truly empathise with your anxiety. As all of us on here will too. ?

I hope it’s misplaced. I really do.

Nezumi65 Sat 01-Feb-20 21:02:26

He’s on a number of meds (is very severely disabled). I’m not too worried about the others - he doesn’t respond well to brand swapping but we should be able to get something. The problem with epilepsy meds is that brand swapping increases the risk of seizures & sometimes once you have lost control you don’t regain it.

It would have been worse 3 years ago - then he could only take liquid meds and they are always a nightmare to get at the best of times. At least he can now have capsules.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 20:48:21

Perhaps. That said I hope the meds for your son get through the same as now as any interruption in supply must be a very real worry for you. I hope and trust the E.U. won’t imperil pharma. It’s a huge industry and surely pragmatism will prevail.

But I do understand your concern. x

Nezumi65 Sat 01-Feb-20 20:39:48

Well we had them until 2012 so will be interesting to see whether they do anything marvellous.

Perhaps they can help my son’s epilepsy meds arrive seamlessly (unfortunately only made in the EU).

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 20:13:47

Welcoming the plan in early August 2019, Richard Ballantyne, CEO of the British Ports Association (BPA), warned that balance will be needed in order to also keep non-free ports competitive and functioning after Brexit.

“Many of the benefits of a traditional ‘free port’ can be achieved in the UK through existing processes, but we look forward to working with government on how a UK-specific model can boost sustainable development in and around ports and add real value,” he added in a statement.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 20:10:19

It doesn’t tally with the article I read. Never mind. There are pluses to be found which is why the government are looking at their creation.

Other ideas will be along.

I feel very positive.

Sorry.
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Nezumi65 Sat 01-Feb-20 19:58:01

More details on them here. I’m hoping we have a bit more on offer than that www.sussex.ac.uk/broadcast/read/47945

Nezumi65 Sat 01-Feb-20 19:53:14

Fact-check on Freeports

Not quite the shiny new invention they’re being sold as. fullfact.org/europe/free-ports/

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:51:18

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Greymar Sat 01-Feb-20 19:51:15

Mmmm, I like knitting and reading but not at the same time.

MerylStreep Sat 01-Feb-20 19:50:21

Cocaine filled balloons. I'd like to see that delivery ???

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:49:57

Why is the average " woman in the street" so damned excited about all this? I really don't understand it at all.

I don’t like the soaps, ‘Strictly’, knitting or gardening Greymar but I do like politics and current affairs! Always have.

Each to their own I suppose.

Smileless2012 Sat 01-Feb-20 19:49:35

I agree Urmstongran that Boris did the right thing last night by not joining in any public celebrations. Doing so would have emphasised the divisions that he rightly wants to heal,

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:44:21

I read a brilliant article on Freeports last year Jura written by someone in the business. It was so encouraging about what we would be able to do!

Ah, it was just an illustration really though as to the possibilities we now have as an independent nation.

Upwards & onwards!

Greymar Sat 01-Feb-20 19:44:05

Why is the average " woman in the street" so damned excited about all this? I really don't understand it at all.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 01-Feb-20 19:40:37

I don't think Free Ports are likely to 'level up', do you Growstuff. All that ever needed was the same sort investment in parts of the country that up 'till now have not voted Conservative as those who have been overindulged in this way.

General reaction from the industries involved is that we could achieve the same through existing processes without the race to the bottom Free Ports encourage.

As we appear to be carrying on with austerity I will wait and see if any of these little miracles actually happen.

I don't think I am likely to call myself a rejoiner. I am still pro-European and I still like the idea that this island, with the sometimes over-inflated idea of its own importance, can work cooperatively with other nations. Rather like the idea of LG admitting to an error, I won't hold my breath.

jura2 Sat 01-Feb-20 19:39:53

''Have you heard post Brexit about ‘Freeports’? Amazing! Can’t wait. Read up on them and the reason why Boris plans to introduce them. Boy that’s gonna shake things up!''

I am afraid the FT strongly disagrees with you.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:39:43

You also called leavers who were posting on here last night sad people because they didn't have anyone to celebrate with!

I think that comment was aimed at me Chestnut.

I ignored it even though it was a tad sharp.

Best way.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:36:20

I’ve not told you what to do GGMk3 it was just a suggestion for a way not to spoil this one.

Cocaine filled balloons? Hehe! Nah. Don’t need a chemical buzz for this happy thread! It’s just so lovely to have a space to say ‘we did it - against all the odds’.

growstuff I think levelling up will be Boris’ way of acknowledging to the Red Wall who have loaned him their votes that he won’t let them down. Dominic Cummings is savvy. He will want Boris to retain those votes. It will happen I’m convinced. Give it time ... it’s Day 1.
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Chestnut Sat 01-Feb-20 19:30:02

GracesGranMK3: Just as I am often shocked by your posts Chestnut.
It's unlikely you can quote an example where I have made a personal attack on another poster like you do.
You have called leavers crass, clueless, rude, nasty, arrogant, lacking in common sense, no manners, childish. You said to one poster 'unless you are a child and it's your mother helping you to understand how things are done.'
You also called leavers who were posting on here last night sad people because they didn't have anyone to celebrate with!
These comments are just awful, and I will leave it to other posters to decide who is the one being 'rude and nasty'.
If my comments shock you then it's because they have clearly hit the spot but they are certainly not personal insults as many of yours are.

growstuff Sat 01-Feb-20 19:24:19

Urmstongran Do you know what "levelling up" involves and what is already happening?

GracesGranMK3 Sat 01-Feb-20 19:18:43

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Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:09:23

Why on earth should we Urmstongran? If it felt to you that we were celebrating bringing our country down wouldn't you say something?

Perhaps I might well GGMk3.

Just not on THIS thread‼️

Why be mean and want to burst the party balloon? You could have started another thread for a good old moan!

Urmstongran Sat 01-Feb-20 19:06:37

Reading back over this thread (I’ve been at a children’s party all afternoon - lovely!) in reply to you Jura

^ I have not yet heard a single Leaver who has given any factual argument, backed by clear information- as to how Brexit will make our country and our lives better. No, no- not soundbites, not clichés- FACTS^

Have you heard post Brexit about ‘Freeports’? Amazing! Can’t wait. Read up on them and the reason why Boris plans to introduce them. Boy that’s gonna shake things up!

And as regards Boris not joining in the celebrations last night, I honestly think he did the balanced and right thing to stay away. He wants to heal divisions and his presence most probably would have alienated those who didn’t vote for Brexit. As for those who did, they got over it and enjoyed their party. The main thing is that we ARE leaving. Joyful celebrations did not need Boris as such.

And I have heard that Remainers are now calling themselves Rejoiners. Good luck with that but I believe you’ll have to wait 10y as I think Boris will do well in 5y ‘levelling up’ and get a second term. Labour will be in the wilderness for some time, in my humble!

GracesGranMK3 Sat 01-Feb-20 18:53:11

I knew there was no point in waiting for a little truthfulness from you Lemongrove. Whatever the name, you don't change.