INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Haven't you heard of democracy lemon. and Meryl? It means we can continue to work to be re-united with the EU. And we will. Perhaps when Brexit begins to bite you may realise why.

What insults? It’s from an academic paper. Link again www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0176268018301320

Nezumi65
I'm afraid your insults ( and yours jura2 with the hairy knuckle jibe) are water off a ducks back. We've had them all thrown at us for the past 4 years. But we knew the glorious day would come and here we are. ???

At some point in time... everyone will just have to accept that we have now left the EU and move on.
All the insults and petty posts will pass into history.?

Nams - you don’t understand I didn’t write that don’t you? It’s from a paper describing the demographics of the Brexit vote. The only evidence I am using it for is why the Brexit party photos from last night were not representative of our country. We’re not all old and white. But it seems if you are then you are more likely to vote Brexit and therefore presumably more likely to wave a flag in London last night.

that is the image that remainers love to promote,

What a strange comment to make about a statistic. How can you "love to promote" a fact? It exists and, in this instance, careful, accurate research has shown that:

... voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment, infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction.

You may be an exception, but overall that sums up the evidence. Perhaps you have done your own research and would sum this group of voters up differently? It doesn't make people who fall under these descriptors bad people, just people more likely to vote leave.

Surely your employment issues are more related to neoliberalism than the EU? Do you really think Johnson is going to move away from neoliberal economics?

Nezumi65 ....yep that's me to a tee! With the exception of low life satisfaction
How annoying it must be for you.
All these plebs out there, stopping the real intelligentsia getting their own way.
BTW can you give me some lessons on how to use my smartphone, seeing as you know what's good for me?

Toodleloo, off to get my hard earned benefits.

I’m not scraping the barrel - I am quoting from a a peer reviewed journal article on the demographics of the Brexit vote.

Read it - it’s open access and linked to above.

How did the EU reduce your job security? If that is your criteria (& I think I it’s a fair enough one - just struggling to work out why ), then you’ll understand why me having to shut my business due to Brexit makes me less than enthusiastic about leaving.

Where did I say I did not understand your problems? In fact I remember saying clearly I had every empathy for you.

I have spent most of my working life ( and some of my childhood) under the EU. None of it has been good. Much of it has been dominated by EU policies ( not austerity or British governmental policy) .

Where I live we have never done well out of EU grants - what grants were given went to vanity projects including universities and similar monet lecturers etc.

Many of us have felt the impact of large numbers of workers looking for a small number of jobs. Even those with good skills and education . Most of us have experienced the loss of at least one job as a result of businesses closing down in our area. I lost three jobs. all were a result of EU grnats taking the work away from us and moving the businesses to other EU countries - Poland was a favourite in the 1990's.

My husband lost a job as a direct result of EU policies too.
Getting work when there are many looking for work and taking jobs. I found agency work in a food factory where I was the only person who spoke English.

The agency was run by EU people and the workers were mostly EU and arabic nationals. It was cold, long hours and loney. I also had to put up with harassment , but I did it because that was what was available.

Then my husband found work, he was fortunate and things eased. Then he retired ( he is older than me) and took his work pension. It gave us some stability.

I found my current job. But this has been up and down because of EU issues. I work in an international workplace environment now and we have a number of contracts outside the EU. When we were fighting for EU only contracts we didnt do well. In 2010 I was told I might not have a job. It was touch and go again as the EU were preventing our expansion with cartel practices. After 2016 we looked for work globally and foun d it but three years of uncertainty has been hard going. The firm has made headway and we have employed more people. Now we are going to go full steam..... it will see me through to retirement and for younger ones I hope beyond.

I have been fairly lucky. I know others who have fared far worse. I will not go into full detail because this is an open forum. I will not put my private life across these pages.

Not everyone did well for the last 47 years.

lemongrove as we only ever see you when you can heap coals on an already difficult situation why would anyone care what you say.

Very early on in this thread, GN would not intervene when personal comments were being made. So that's alright then.

*Nezumi658 - that is the image that remainers love to promote, but I can assure you there are plenty of educated people with vision who voted leave. People who can see their country is able to stand on its own feet. You could also say that those who voted remain are self-centred and more concerned about their own situation than the future of their country.
You could say a lot of things........

Oh Nezumi you really are scraping the barrel now......
Totally expected though.
However, petty or vindictive some Remainer posts become,
Those of us who are very happy with the outcome just don’t care about it.We are now out of the EU and can move on.
I look forward with optimism to the future ( particularly now that the Corbyn threat has been removed.) ?

Posted too early ... for both posts

From the article above:

We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment, infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction

Do you REALLY believe that MerylStreep? Even if you do that crowd is not 80% white. It is far higher.

But 44% of Londoners are now black or ethnic. However, London voted remain so I expect a lot of these people travelled from other areas. They happen to be white, reflecting the overall 80% of white people in the country.

From GGMK3 those who wanted to leave the EU are childish and nasty

And then from GGMK3 again How about looking at the facts instead of characterising whole swaths of people

Talk about contradictory! Complete and utter b******t yet again, but hey, the rest of us are used to it. Quite laughable really.

Demographics of Brexit voters. The photos are unsurprising www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0176268018301320

Nezumi65
Maybe the reason why there were so many white people in the photos is because at the last census 80% of residents in this country are white.

Thank you lemongrove

The petty sour grapes expressed by some posters about last night was expected though.

Would you complain about ‘old black people’ in the same way I wonder.?

Nezumi you do seem obsessed by ‘old white people’.......sounds a bit racist to me.