Censorship / Restrictions of freedom of the press

John Crace is good. Here’s another quote from him (& interesting that he was not allowed into Johnson’s statement). Sounds as if he is banning press left right & centre

Boris had only just started, though. There was to be no talk of a no-deal Brexit. From now on, no deal would simply be referred to as the Australian model. In that no Australian trade deal with the EU actually existed. It was pure genius. Boris could eliminate cancer from the world merely by renaming it. Why had no one thought of that before? This was the kind of innovation that was going to put the Little back into Great Britain

“Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings have been forced to take the only course of action open to any sensible sociopath. Having already disengaged from the BBC’s Today programme and ITV’s Good Morning Britain – who wants to explain to 7 million people why Priti Patel doesn’t understand the difference between terrorism and counter-terrorism? – the government is now steadily distancing itself from all other media outlets. It can’t be long before there is only one second-rate journalist left – other than Boris – to report the news as Downing Street would like it to be.”

Sounds like John Crace has their measure.

I agree it's best to leave the offensive posts POGS as it shows people's true colours. There's a lot of twisted meanings on here but the permanently offended need to create something they can complain about.

I like to think that I don't let personal feelings influence what I feel to be right or wrong. And must also point out that I'm not a Labour Party member.

suziewoozie Tue 04-Feb-20 22:09:09

'POGS what an absolutely ridiculous false equivalence you’ve drawn. Do you actually know that BJ is the PM, as in Head of the Government and was trying, through his henchmen, to limit access by certain parts of the press to briefings that should be open to all ? 'FFS - have this ??for chief apologist'
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Don't you dare twist my post and as for:-

'FFS - have this ??for chief apologist'

I think that speaks volumes about your style of posting and I hope your post remains in situ, I certainly won't report your abusive wording.

An ' apologist' would not state No 10 deserved criticism or thought they have a ' duty' to be interviewed, give an audience to All in the media.

What you and others are upset about is I dared to broaden the OP topic, raise a point in question but it upset the cart because it did not fall in line with you.

Eloethan Tue 04-Feb-20 21:23:31

'Kier Starmer and Labour are not the government. Do you not wish to have access to information from all sides as to what is happening in government - or do you want a select few cheer leaders to be responsible for conveying that information?'
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Read my post for your answer without twisting my opinion please.

I said

' I am no hypocrite so I think this was a big mistake by No 10 and they deserve criticism.'

' It is the ' duty' of No 10, indeed politicians from ALL parties, to be open, fair and expect to be challenged and except that goes with the territory.'

Labaik Tue 04-Feb-20 21:14:56

'I don't think you can compare what the Conservatives did yesterday to someone not wishing to be interviewed by a newspaper that some parts of the country even refuse to sell because it's so disgusting.'
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I think you can compare what parties/individual politicians do especially if they are criticising others.

Your post proves that because of your ' personal ' feelings/attitude you would think it perfectly acceptable for a politician to pick and choose who he/she gives an audience to which is ironic given the OP is asking about Censorship Restrictions/ Freedom of the Press.

At least I made it perfect clear that I thought it was completely wrong in general and ' ALL' parties should accept it is their duty to be interviewed, give an audience to ALL the media.

Trump/Starmer/Johnson et al are politicians and if somebody thinks it is not acceptable for one but it is for another to refuse to be interviewed or ask a question then the only conclusion is their partisan politics gives rise to hypocrisy.

POGS what an absolutely ridiculous false equivalence you’ve drawn. Do you actually know that BJ is the PM, as in Head of the Government and was trying, through his henchmen, to limit access by certain parts of the press to briefings that should be open to all ? FFS - have this ??for chief apologist

No Boris fan but.,
I find it a bit odd that all of those journalist were at the press briefing held at Greenwich a little later on. If you watch on You Tube you will see them all there and Boris took questions from journalists at the end of his briefing.
I wonder why they didn't boycott this meeting because they had been treated so badly earlier.

Does anyone know why the Brexit Day message from Boris was not broadcast on the major TV channels. I thought that a bit odd too.

Still no doubt Johnson’s fan club on here will be acting as his apologists for this behaviour

As a Boris fan, I want to say I am appalled by this sw.

It’s the thin end of the wedge. Truly shocking.

Kier Starmer and Labour are not the government. Do you not wish to have access to information from all sides as to what is happening in government - or do you want a select few cheer leaders to be responsible for conveying that information?

I don't think you can compare what the Conservatives did yesterday to someone not wishing to be interviewed by a newspaper that some parts of the country even refuse to sell because it's so disgusting.

I am no hypocrite so I think this was a big mistake by No 10 and they deserve criticism.

I do find the irony however in Keir Starmer and Labour railing against the decision to what could be termed as ' no platforming ' when only days ago Keir Starmer said :-

" I certainly won’t be giving any interviews to The Sun during the course of this campaign.”
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The rot needs stopping by ALL political parties who refuse to allow questioning by a cross section of the media, allow their supporters to bray at journalists for asking difficult questions and certainly look at their own behaviour.

Watching and hearing the abuse both verbally and written by those who do not like a certain journalist is a tawdry affair too. Argue what they say but if abuse is all you have in your musket youv'e lost the argument before you start.

It is the ' duty' of No 10, indeed politicians from ALL parties, to be open, fair and expect to be challenged and except that goes with the territory.

Terrible behaviour from no 10, Boris or his mouth piece, is acting like a dictator.

suziewoozie: Chestnut so your views on No 10’s behaviour today are....?
I imagine the same as everyone else's.....totally unacceptable. Why would you even ask that? ?

Chestnut so your views on No 10’s behaviour today are....?

No 10 trying to put a spin on this:

After the walkout, a senior No 10 source said there was a normal briefing for all lobby journalists after the prime minister’s speech and that the later one was a “smaller, selected briefing for specialist senior journalists”.

The source said “a number of uninvited journalists barged into No 10 and demanded to be part of it” but were told they could not attend.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/03/political-journalists-boycott-no-10-briefing-after-reporter-ban

If this was true, why would the 'invited' journalists walk out as well?

Sorry, that should read - 1933 and after.

1933 on after.

suziewoozie: not a diversion. Didn't I say BJ had avoided appearing on GMB, hardly a compliment. And who has ever said BJ was a god? ?

Notice the diversion? Let’s praise Morgan and ignore what happened today re the press. Mustn’t whatever we do criticise our god Johnson

X posts Maizie

That’s right Nez What a lovely democratic country we are led by a brave bold man who fearlessly stands up to the press. So proud

Yes, definitely not allowed on the Today programme.

This is where the scariness starts. Gagging the press has no part in a free and democratic society. Government should be open and above board; except, perhaps, where our security might be at risk.

Yes Curlywirly and Piers Morgan has regularly complained about Boris not appearing on GMB. PM is probably second only to Andrew Neil at roasting politicians when required (on 220c or Gas Mark 8). ?