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MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 10:20:53

I see that Sajid Javiv intends to launch a 'Brexit Red Tape Challenge' with his budget He intends to invite the public to suggest ways in which Britian might diverge from the EU rule book according to the Financial Times.

So here's your chance to get your thinking caps on and let the Chancellor know what particularly irks you about EU rules.

Do share your thoughts with us because many Remainers are curious to know what red tape turned you against the EU...

MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 22:06:02

I'm not sure what your problem is with that 'rule', Joelsnan. The UK seemed to be rather keen on it:

The new rules support UK Government priorities of economic growth and deficit reduction by making the public procurement process faster, less costly, and more effective for business and procurers alike. They represent an excellent outcome from the UK’s extensive negotiations in Brussels.

4.4 These changes provide a much more modern, flexible and commercial approach compared to the existing regime. Outdated and superfluous constraints have been removed, and many new features have been added to streamline and modernise public procurement. For contracting authorities, this means being able to run procurement exercises faster, with less red tape, and more focus on getting the right supplier and the best tender. And for suppliers, the process of bidding for public contracts should be quicker, less costly, and less bureaucratic, enabling suppliers to compete more effectively.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 21:36:25

There is no EU army. There is the NATO agreement, deployment as a UN force and a further accordance between various countries with our individual force elements.

Joelsnan Thu 06-Feb-20 20:46:53

EU Public Procurement Directive 2014
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/560261/Brief_Guide_to_the_2014_Directives_Oct_16.pdf

Which opened up the bidding process for procurement over a certain value (unless it posed a security threat) to the whole of the EU and countries that had trade deals with EU.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 20:23:22

Plus they have kidnapped The island of Ireland grin

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 20:22:30

The EU army?

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 20:10:32

ananimous not our profit though, manager not owner! The saying around these parts is “you never see a farmer riding a bicycle”. Apparently that replaced “you never see a farmer with worn boots” (as he could afford a horse).

MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 20:05:32

A lot of the things being cited aren't EU regulations. Sajid wants to know what EU rules you don't like.

Sadly, some of the 'rules' being mentioned aren't EU rules st all.

For a start, Stilton cheese was never made at Stilton. I have a history of Stilton cheesemaking which confirms this. It was called 'Stilton' because it was sold at Stilton, which was a staging point on the Great North Road with which the cheese became associated. The staging inns bought in the cheese from outlying areas.

Keep them coming, folks...

GracesGranMK3 Thu 06-Feb-20 19:52:38

Oh UG, that's beneath you. If you can't find a decent argument you go for a fallacious one. Dear, oh dear.

Jabberwok Thu 06-Feb-20 19:45:05

Fishing in particular, and the horrible treatment of Greece (Scotland beware!)

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:39:40

Experiencednotold So I think you will be alright.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:38:58

I've never met a poor lawyer, or farmer.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:34:39

vampirequeen

British kite mark? (1903)

If the subsidy is not flimflam you should be able to get it from our British gov.

We do not need management.

Oopsminty Thu 06-Feb-20 19:33:59

I dont like their live animal transportation.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 19:32:17

Then I forgot the link! Twice!!
ec.europa.eu/environment/nature/rbaps/index_en.htm

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 19:31:34

Oops quite not quiet.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 06-Feb-20 19:31:12

AlltheLs
I’m no fan of European regulations but I think you’ll find there was quiet a lot under subsidy that benefitted the environment and wild life. Do you farm ? We do.

vampirequeen Thu 06-Feb-20 19:28:44

I know someone who voted leave because 'they make us have green broccoli.' She couldn't remember what colour broccoli used to be but she knew it was different when it was British.

I never mentioned minimum wage on my list btw but I'd like to add:
The CE rules. Who needs safe electronics, electrical goods, gas heaters/boilers or toys for children.? Bring back lead paint. We survived it.

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:27:22

www.google.com/search?q=juncker+drunk+animated+gifs&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjE7-DF073nAhVQIRoKHTlyChIQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=juncker+drunk+animated+gifs&gs_l=img.3...2653.6202..8549...0.0..0.135.1036.13j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.Y04GGQXKEGE&ei=62c8XoTOOtDCaLnkqZAB&bih=852&biw=1745#imgrc=BJhUHNp2hBkP6M&imgdii=AUsuFBjuJWoT2M

Juncker ruffles a woman's hair

ananimous Thu 06-Feb-20 19:23:23

I'm just glad that Juncker &Co has no sway over us anymore - Disgusted still with the footage of Juncker staggering about (Tired & Emotional) being supported by several people, ruffling a womans hair, slapping people in "good humour" (do check it out).

As for Tusk, Macron, Merkel and Verasstead - So glad we just trade with these bullies going forward.

I voted remain, I'm ashamed to say I fell for the avalanche of bllsht, but, would have voted leave if the 2nd referendum had been undemocratically arranged.
Thankfully the British democratic vote prevailed and our nation has won liberty.

LONG LIVE LIBERTY!

varian Thu 06-Feb-20 19:12:11

Chestnut posted this silly list, lifted from the pages of The Express, which is not a newspaper but a propaganda instrument and has been since the 1930s.

"Well here's a few of the ridiculous:
No bendy bananas (2009)
Illegal for Stilton cheese to be made in Stilton (2013)
Illegal for drink manufacturers to claim water hydrates you or that prunes are a laxative (2011)
UK not allowed to scrap the tampon tax
Fishing quotas - throwing back dead fish into the sea!
LED lighting replacing halogen even though there is evidence it damages your eyesight.
Imperial weights and measures banned (2010)"

I am really disappointed . This is scraping the bottom of tbe barrel.

MaizieD Thu 06-Feb-20 19:08:18

I regret, Ug, that I didn't understand a word of your response.

What exactly were you objecting to?

Chestnut Thu 06-Feb-20 18:34:08

Thank you for that anna7
Yes, it was the Labour government
Minimum Wage Act 1998

anna7 Thu 06-Feb-20 17:36:01

The national minimum wage was introduced in the UK in 1998 by the Labour party. Not all EU countries have a minimum wage. Italy does not. Paid holidays were introduced in the UK in 1938. Long before we joined the EU. My point is no one would say many EU directives in relation to employment, health and safety issues etc are a bad thing but would these things not have happened in the UK anyway, due to natural progression and the work of the unions. Countries not in the EU, such as Australia and New Zealand have Food safety standards and workers rights, including a minimum wage, and seem to flourish.

POGS Thu 06-Feb-20 17:11:05

AGAA4 Thu 06-Feb-20 15:45:03
Vampirequeen. Yes. I agree. Let's forget about all the good directives from EU including minimum wage"
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Are you sure the EU give this country the Minimum Wage?

DoraMarr Thu 06-Feb-20 17:01:11

vampirequeen well put. I have never had an answer to the question “what EU laws or directives would you like to see repealed?” Similarly, a man was complaining about “these stupid health and safety laws” and I asked him which ones he would scrap. He thought for a moment and said “children not being allowed to play with conkers.” I explained that was a myth.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/dec/09/conkers-goggles-myth-health-safety

He couldn’t think of any others but “there must be lots of them.” I think that is how some people view EU directives: “we don’t know any, but there must be lots of them.”