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More heartbreak for the Queen

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merlotgran Mon 10-Feb-20 22:08:19

Apparently Peter Phillips and his wife Autumn have split up.

I'm so sorry to read this news. I thought they were the happiest of the younger royals, living at Gatcombe with their lovely little girls.

How sad for Princess Anne. sad

gillybob Tue 11-Feb-20 12:09:10

I think you are trying to twist my words Anniebach . She is “different“ and there is no getting away with it.

Jabberwok Tue 11-Feb-20 12:10:10

Wonder how Prince Harry will come back to England in March - rowing or sailing boat?!! Wonder how Greta gets around the world?!! William and Katherine are on a visit to Australia in the near future, wonder how they'll get there?!! It's not just Prince Charles Who flies!!!

Jabberwok Tue 11-Feb-20 12:12:47

Emotionally the Queen will be no different to any other loving grandmother, nor will Princes Anne. They don't flaunt it in public, that is true

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 12:15:05

Plastic plays a part in our life whether we like it or not
It has become an essential part of of lives. gilly and I don't know what we would do without it.
However, we are going to have find new ways of dealing with it and scientists are working on that constantly.
At least a total worldwide ban on single use plastic would be a step forward.

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 12:15:52

Perhaps we are like Danny Dyer and have blue blood after all!
We probably are, Danny is one of millions!!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Feb-20 12:18:10

Callistemon Unfortunately a worldwide ban on single use plastic is not a viable option at the moment.

Our NHS and worldwide medical care would grind to a halt overnight. It needs a sensible approach with viable alternatives before "bans" of anything are put in place.

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 12:18:29

Well, that's another granny who will probably never see even more of her grandchildren again.
Why?

What's to stop Autumn bringing the children over here to visit and for Princess Anne to fly over to Canada to visit her grandchildren if she wishes?

There are lots of grandparents on here with grandchildren far and even further away, so that is another nonsense.
confused

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 12:19:46

I was thinking of single use plastic bags, GrannyGravy but yes, we do need to find a solution and fast.

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 12:20:54

Still on the subject of flying and plastic (off topic, I know) but has anyone noticed those machines at airports where suitcases can be covered in layer upon layer of clingfilm?
Time for a ban on those.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Feb-20 12:23:32

I know what you mean Callistemon, they are used for added Security/protection from tampering when flying into some airports. Not widely used in Europe, but the norm in Asia and Africa.

Greymar Tue 11-Feb-20 12:25:57

Some plastic is useful. A great deal of it is to with greed.

Grany Tue 11-Feb-20 12:37:32

Royal Finances

Quoting from a book 2010 by Liam Finn

Since 2001 the Windsors publish a financial report detailing how much money they cost the tax payer.
Each year quoting a woefully underestimated figure of the total taxpayer expenditure of the Windsors.

In 2009 BP claimed the monarchy cost everybody in Britain 69p In total it cost 41.5 million, it claimed. In truth it cost £183.02 million.

Imagine what it costs today?

Huge swathes of money are not even available for public disclosure!
All travel expenditure under £10,000 are exempt from publication and not recorded.

William uses a Ministery of Defence Chinock misleading his superiors allowing officers to take the blame costing taxpayer £50,000
Andrew charters a luxury private jet £60,000 of public money 3 day visit to Azerbaijan
Milks the crown estate of millions of pounds which should be going o public purse.
And so it goes on lots of corruption
The monarch should be sacked next one takes the throne

When doing charities they don't boast about Charles demanding seven bedrooms to himself with a dressing room a writing room and accommodation for his staff which inclined some of his three butlers four valets four chefs and ten gardeners.

I don't think this is democracy this is many of the reasons we need a republic They cost us the earth.

Buttonjugs Tue 11-Feb-20 12:43:41

Well said @newgran2019

Anniebach Tue 11-Feb-20 12:44:53

I watched a programme last Thursday on the Queen ‘Inside the Crown’

She had to meet and shake hands with Martin McGuinness ,former leader of the IRA, the IRA murdered her much loved
uncle and have him at a banquet at Buck House .

This isn’t about the IRA, just what the queen has to do as
head of state.

chimes22 Tue 11-Feb-20 14:23:57

Well said.

Sparklefizz Tue 11-Feb-20 14:41:28

*Anniebach" I watched that programme too. There was also a quick clip of her with Mugabe. As Queen she has had to entertain many people whom she would probably rather not. She couldn't hide like Meghan did when Trump came to visit.

annep1 Tue 11-Feb-20 14:57:22

*She had to meet and shake hands with Martin McGuinness ,former leader of the IRA, the IRA murdered her much loved
uncle and have him at a banquet at Buck House .*
I would have refused.

Grany Tue 11-Feb-20 15:00:25

An elected head of state would be much cheaper A fixed generous salary

The Duchy is run like a corporation but is exempt from corporation tax Inheritance tax capital gains tax.

Sovereign grant
The Duchies
Amongst other sources

Jabberwok Tue 11-Feb-20 15:04:35

Not if you were the Queen! She also had to meet Ceausescu and his odious wife. I think they accompanied her on a carriage ride!! How awful can that have been!!
You can keep your Trumps,Macrons, Merkels and all these here today gone tomorrow heads of state! Big, big admiration for our Queen none of these can touch her.

Grany Tue 11-Feb-20 15:26:59

The Queen has a few of her millions stashed away in tax havens.

Should be given a fixed amount of money like a government department. This was suggested in the 1970s
But mrs Windsor threatened to leave BP if this happened.

And what they do give to charity is money from the public purse.

So who's interests is she there for obviously her own.

Anniebach Tue 11-Feb-20 15:30:16

The Queen wouldn’t refuse, she represents the country .

At the Holocaust Memorial in Israel Trump sent his deputy ,
The president of Poland refused to attend because he wasn’t
invited to make a speech, Charles was there representing the
Queen who is obviously too elderly to travel now.

What is so wrong is some believe everything negative they read about the Queen . I signed onto to Netflix to watch an
episode of The Crown, I was so angry I cancelled the next day.
They protrayed the Queens visit to Aberfan in 1966, she was cold and pretended to wipe her eyes, visited a family, shook hands and left. I was there, her eyes filled with tears, the family she visited she stayed sitting with for about half an hour .

JenniferEccles Tue 11-Feb-20 15:43:14

Who was it who made that callous comment, ‘privileged pain’ ?

Apart from obviously having access to speedy medical treatment, the royals suffer life’s trials and tribulations the same as the rest of us.

annep1 Tue 11-Feb-20 16:01:40

Grany I agree with everything you say. I am very anti monarchy. But no one listens to facts so save yourself the bother.

I still don't really care about this divorce more than any other. Divorce is common nowadays. Mind you they will have an easier time than my daughter had financially .

Hithere Tue 11-Feb-20 16:07:02

I feel worse for the kids of the broken marriage than the Queen.

Marriages fail. Royals are still humans like us.

The queen will cope. Not everything that happens in her extended family is about her.

gillybob Tue 11-Feb-20 16:08:39

So they worry about their jobs, putting food on the table, paying the rent/mortgage, gas,electricity, getting their children into half decent schools, worry about paying for much needed prescriptions, dental treatment or glasses, waiting weeks to see a GP, months to have hospital treatment...... the list is endless.

To sum up. They do not have a clue about living the real world.