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More heartbreak for the Queen

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merlotgran Mon 10-Feb-20 22:08:19

Apparently Peter Phillips and his wife Autumn have split up.

I'm so sorry to read this news. I thought they were the happiest of the younger royals, living at Gatcombe with their lovely little girls.

How sad for Princess Anne. sad

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 10:22:57

*Princess Michael of Kent
Prince Michael renounced his right to the throne?

This tablet likes to think for me.

Callistemon Tue 11-Feb-20 10:21:52

Terribull I didn't know that Autumn had had to renounce her Catholic faith.

This has a precedent though, as Prince Michael of Kent is Catholic and didn't her husband renounce any right to the throne in order to marry her so she could keep her faith?

Could Peter Phillips not have done that for his wife?

merlotgran I wonder if there have been restrictions on younger members of the RF moving overseas to live but now Harry has set another precedent. Or perhaps they just did not want to upset her grandmother.
Zara's father lives in New Zealand.

Nanny41 Tue 11-Feb-20 10:20:43

Sad times,and money doesnt help.

Jabberwok Tue 11-Feb-20 10:19:41

What's wrong with Prince Charles that's right with Prince William? He's privileged and extremely wealthy too!

Anniebach Tue 11-Feb-20 10:19:04

Why not Charles ?

Jabberwok Tue 11-Feb-20 10:18:06

Masses of support for Prince Harry on here despite his inherited wealth and freebies, yet vilification for the Queen for the same reason! How sad and inconsistent is that?!!

endlessstrife Tue 11-Feb-20 10:17:48

Just watch the dramas and documentaries that are around at the moment, on the Royal family to see how miserable they are. Whatever we think of them, they ARE a safety net. I do agree though, stuck between a rock and a hard place comes to mind when weighing up a Trump like head of State, or Prince Charles. Perhaps we could skip straight to Prince William.

Anniebach Tue 11-Feb-20 10:17:45

I saw the Queen cry, not over the royal yacht

maddyone Tue 11-Feb-20 10:14:29

Good point Acer.

maddyone Tue 11-Feb-20 10:11:24

Peter and Autumn’s separation is sad, in particular, because there are two children involved. Princess Anne will be saddened I should think.

maddyone Tue 11-Feb-20 10:09:11

Gilly, so sorry to hear about your husband, I do hope he gets his operation very soon.

I do agree that money makes life easier, not necessarily happier, but definitely easier. Of course, wealthy people, royal or not, suffer from the same illnesses, divorces, poor judgements, accidents, etc as the rest of us, but their money does cushion them from some of the effects.

Acer Tue 11-Feb-20 10:09:06

How sad ? find many of these comments and nothing on the enormous money wasted year on year by fraudsters and various government policies.

newgran2019 Tue 11-Feb-20 10:08:16

I think we would get about £5 each if the Queen's wealth were shared out, but it isn't really her money; it's mostly from land and valuables passed down through history and held for the nation. She can't just sell it off.

So you'd rather have a President Trump or Blair as head of state, then? And how much do you think they cost the US taxpayers?

I wouldn't want the royals' life for all their money and comfort, and I bet the Queen cares more about ordinary people than Boris does.

Greymar Tue 11-Feb-20 08:22:24

sorry things are so difficult for you gilly.

Grammaretto Tue 11-Feb-20 08:17:21

I agree abut the money making a difference. Ofcourse the royals suffer and get old and miserable like the rest of us but it's easier being miserable if you are rich.
I sometimes begin with a thought if I were the Queen would I be treated this way when waiting ages for an appointment. That spurs me to action. I phone the minister of health or similar and demand action. Thankyou Liz.
Not as long as your DH though Gillybob

TrendyNannie6 Tue 11-Feb-20 08:13:43

Yes it’s sad, but a fact of life I’m afraid, not everyone stays together, rich or poor, always feel sorry when there is children involved,

EllanVannin Tue 11-Feb-20 08:11:38

Gillybob, my late H used to say that the Queen had enough to give every citizen of the UK £1million pound----that was in the mid 80's.

The same would apply today even though the population has increased.

Still, I can look forward to an extra 25p in my pension this year when I turn 80.

TerriBull Tue 11-Feb-20 08:02:26

It's a shame, but who knows what goes wrong when marriages come to an abrupt end.

I was really surprised to read, and I think I remember being surprised at the time, that she was expected to renounce her catholic faith. Somehow that all seems so draconian in this day and age, although at the time of their marriage he would have been further up the line of succession. Nevertheless, I think it's about time the whole "persona non grata" thing that surrounds catholics in certain stratas of society, was dropped, it's so steeped in a bygone age, hopefully! speaking as someone who was raised in that faith.

suziewoozie Mon 10-Feb-20 23:37:49

Of course having money makes a huge difference when things go wrong. No worries about affording a house each, being able to afford to go and visit the children in another country, not worrying about the legal costs of a divorce. Nothing has happened to HM that has not happened to thousands and thousands of other grannies up and down the land. It’s also part of the downside of a long life - more years in which things can go wrong. The heartbreak she should be feeling is for her ‘subjects’ forced into food banks, waiting months for operations, insecure and inadequate housing or no housing at all, curs in disability benefits. But she hasn’t a clue - not a clue.

gillybob Mon 10-Feb-20 23:24:21

He has JenniferEccles . Thank you for your kind words .

Don’t mean to derail the thread . Just saying that the royals are so wealthy that a tiny fraction of their money could help ordinary people enormously . But of course they don’t even know we exist . We just pay our taxes to keep them in the lifestyle to which they are accustomed.

JenniferEccles Mon 10-Feb-20 23:11:50

I do hope your husband’s operation is soon gillybob

He has waited long enough hasn’t he?

gillybob Mon 10-Feb-20 22:52:46

Yes annie they do have all of those things, but that wealth can bring peace of mind and health too.

Not wanting to argue but I’m Feeling particularly sad tonight as my DH is so very poorly and a tiny fraction of her Maj’s money could’ve paid for his operation a year ago.

Hey ho. Such is the divide.

paddyanne Mon 10-Feb-20 22:52:20

Of course they do Gilly didn't you see Lizzie fighting back tears when her yacht was being decommisioned ? Wouldn't you cry over that too....lol.Now Andy of the questionable friends wants her to have a new yacht ,maybe he's planning afloating brothel.I have no respect for this family ,none whatsoever,they put their greedy wee hands out for more cash year on year while their "subjects" are living on the breadline and then they whinge about how hard done by they are.What a joke ,monarchy needs to end when Lizzie dies

Anniebach Mon 10-Feb-20 22:46:33

They do gillybob they have divorces, illnesses, worries over children, they know grief, they certainly know criticism, being ridiculed, they know emotional pain, only difference is they are wealthy

JenniferEccles Mon 10-Feb-20 22:45:37

Maybe they will end up hunkering down with Harry and Meghan!!