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Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 11:57:52

Sajid Javid has just resigned as Chancellor!

vegansrock Fri 14-Feb-20 13:41:35

Why assume everyone who criticises the omniscient Dick and Dom were Corbyn supporters. Which I’m not btw- or do you mean the government are beyond criticism now?

JenniferEccles Fri 14-Feb-20 13:12:26

lemongrove Yes some comments are funny aren’t they?!

I believe Javid was previously a remain supporter so maybe Boris felt he wasn’t completely onboard with Brexit.

Or it could have simply been a clash of personalities.

growstuff Fri 14-Feb-20 13:07:41

Why on earth would you like to read daft comments?

lemongrove Fri 14-Feb-20 12:33:49

Jennifer ?exactly!
I sometimes like to read the the OTT and daft comments from those who supported Corbyn and comrades at the last GE, trying to make something about nothing as regards to the present government.As Urmston says, it could be for ten years and is certainly for the next five years.

Number 10 should always be synchronised with Number 11
Both with the Chancellor and his advisors, no good comes of them all being at odds with each other, it has caused problems in the past.

JenniferEccles Fri 14-Feb-20 12:24:51

What goings on?

There has been a Cabinet re-shuffle, that’s all!

Labaik Fri 14-Feb-20 11:45:42

Can anyone explain to me why so many people were critical of us being in the EU but now find these goings on perfectly acceptable?

Labaik Fri 14-Feb-20 11:44:31

'Smacks of Soviet style totalitarianism rather than trying to unify the country.'
...didn't Cummings spend several years in Russia?

Ginny42 Fri 14-Feb-20 11:30:27

If Javid was to sack his advisors, was Rishi Sunak on that list?

vegansrock Fri 14-Feb-20 11:26:21

We might as well have a cabinet of nodding dogs as no deviation from official thinking is allowed. Smacks of Soviet style totalitarianism rather than trying to unify the country.

MaizieD Fri 14-Feb-20 10:58:06

I think that the 'democracy' argument over the referendum result was a simplistic 'We got the most votes' affair which had nothing at all to do with the nuances of democracy. Like fairness and openness, and respect for minority views, for example.

The fact that the current government is demonstrating how ludicrously easy it is to completely destroy the principles of democracy and the unwritten constitution of which the British have always been so proud, is a matter of complete indifference to most voters.

Greta Fri 14-Feb-20 10:43:27

Urmstongran: Well you’ve all got the next 10 years with this government.

I wouldn't bank on it. Things can change very quickly, events here and globally can completely alter the political scene.

The new cabinet does not instil confidence in me. It seems compliancy will be the order of the day. Will all those who were so keen on referring to our democracy to justify the referendum result now hold this Government to account and insist that true Democracy is upheld – not Domocracy?

MaizieD Fri 14-Feb-20 10:16:40

Is that a 'polite' way of saying 'Suck it up', Ug?

I think the catastrophic Brexit effect will kick in long before that.

Urmstongran Fri 14-Feb-20 06:47:09

Well you’ve all got the next 10 years with this government. Then Labour might get a turn though I wouldn’t bank on it.

vegansrock Fri 14-Feb-20 06:18:54

Those supporting the move to a no 10 dictatorship are no doubt applauding Javid’s jumping ship (before he was pushed), even though you loved him a few days ago. The new chancellor will just be a yes man, boot and arse licker, so his public school, Oxbridge, billionaire , casino finance background matters not a jot. He will sign off on whatever spending plans and outrageous borrowing Dick and Dom decide.

POGS Fri 14-Feb-20 00:41:25

Ah the ' Damascene conversion' question.

A sniff of power I also would agree stands for hypocritical and self seeking. Both traits which have nothing admirable about them.

It happens to those in very high places in all parties. Of course it could also be a case of political pragmatism but that depends on which camp you sit in and if you like/dislike the particular individual I guess.

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 21:19:36

If this were a midterm government, losing a Chancellor could be a severe blow to Boris.

But the government is still enjoying a post-electoral honeymoon with its supporters (it has 47% support in the latest Ipsos-Mori poll, 49% with YouGov) (I say "with its supporters", because the majority of the electorate don't back it, and even in England the majority voted for other political parties - but we have FPTP).

In this context, it will barely affect anyone's views - even if Javid makes a damning resignation speech or something like that.

MaizieD Thu 13-Feb-20 21:18:20

Talking to me,; Ug?

Bearing in mind Javid's strong Remain stance before the Referendum and his Damascene conversion to Brexit when it offered him a sniff of power I'd say that he stands for hypocritical and self seeking. Both traits which have nothing admirable about them.

I think 'contempt' is a better description than 'hate', though.

I wonder if he has the makings of a rebel... hmm

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 21:09:14

I bet you hated Javid and everything he stood for until lunchtime today. Sad.

MaizieD Thu 13-Feb-20 21:05:22

Agreed, *suziewoozie: Anyone who thinks that working for Goldman Sachs is anything like working in the 'real world' is living in the land of makebelieve themselves, IMO.?

MaizieD Thu 13-Feb-20 21:01:28

Not 'British Independence', Ug. Brexit. Or, leaving the EU.

Do you think you could keep your vacuous slogans off this thread?

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 20:45:27

The real world of Goldman Sachs.? Getting good educational qualifications is no guarantee that you’ll be an effective Chancellor. Not of course that this actually matters in this case because all he’ll have to do is read out what DC has written down for him.

Urmstongran Thu 13-Feb-20 20:31:34

I am already liking the sound of Mr Sunak. Just been reading up on hum. He is obviously very intelligent, having obtained a First from Oxford and an MBA from Stanford. He has had a career and worked in the real world.

He has been Javid's Deputy as Chief Secretary to the Treasury since last year. He lives in beautiful Yorkshire and he supported British Independence in the 2016 referendum.

All sounds good to me.

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 20:27:03

Well No Deal to start with

vegansrock Thu 13-Feb-20 20:24:03

Surge forward to?.....

suziewoozie Thu 13-Feb-20 20:21:45

Surge away - can’t wait ?