The world according to Andrew Sabisky

Good heavens, it’s unbelievable. Is it really true? I only read the OP, and had to comment. Now I’ll read the rest of the thread.

So your contribution to this thread which has been running for a while now POGS wasn’t (as the rest of us did) to immediately voice your disgust and horror but instead chose to spend your time copying and pasting comments which question the behaviour of the Tories (who incidentally still refuse to condemn DC and AS) in an attempt to show just how unfair we’re all being on all the Tory voters on here who - despite knowing what BJ and DC and the rest of them stand for - still chose to elect them.

That’s the problem - I’ve no idea what your point is.

You see you are proving my point.

Why not - there’s us lot and you lot. It could be worse ?

I just wonder how POGShas the time or patience to copy and paste all that stuff. Then I think what if us lefties had done that with all the slagging off about Corbyn on threads?- well we'd never have had the time or the space. Still "Tory party appoint a racist mysogynist adviser" it's really non-news and the big mistake he made was being so obvious about it. Boris does things better (You see I do acknowledge he has some talents). All that gives me hope is the "You can fool some of the people" quote.

I don’t think we should really be referring to people as “you lot”.

And POGS if you lot hadn’t been so sanctimonious for so long re Labour politics and so silent on this, we wouldn’t have said what we did. None of you lot would have started this thread would you?

Tory party show contrition - that was a joke wasn’t it?

Sorry POGS* don’t take this the wrong way but I lost the will to live. Could you come back with a précis? Peace

I hope today the Tory Party will show contrition and not try and defend Andrew Sabisky because this mess is all of their making.

Yes, I hope so too POGS

RIGHT HERE GOES.

This is possibly why this thread which descended into nothing short of posters desires to attack other GN posters who vote differently to them garnered no comment from Conservative GN Members or indeed others.

I tried to engage in the thread and I would have returned but it quickly became obvious the thread and some posters were interested in equal measure in 2 things

1). Quite rightly discussing the odious comments made by an employee of the Conservative Party.

2) Using this thread as a weapon to sock it to the Tory GN Posters, at least who they deem to be Tories usually because they voted Leave in the ruddy referendum.

The repetitive, inseccant posts just flowed :-

suziewoozie started this thread which was raising a perfectly worthwhile subject for GN posters to engage in yesterday at 12.56

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 16:50:16
'How does it make their voters on here feel, I wonder?'

MaizieD Mon 17-Feb-20 16:59:23
'Our known tory voters are keeping very quiet. Is this what they voted for?'

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 17:01:53
'Yes, I had noticed the deafening silence.'

suziewoozie Mon 17-Feb-20 19:15:48
'Tory supporters on GN in general worship BJ and all his works so the majority will have little to say. I expect some of them are fine anyway with eugenics, misogyny, ableism snd racism'

Nezumi65 Mon 17-Feb-20 19:26:20
'Why are moderate Tories keeping quiet? Surely they cannot be happy that their party is recruiting eugenicists'

suziewoozie Mon 17-Feb-20 19:29:17
'Today’s Tory party is a cult'

suziewoozie Mon 17-Feb-20 19:30:26
'Phew had to be careful with my ls and ns there'

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 19:36:33
'We understood what you meant suzie wink'

GagaJo Mon 17-Feb-20 19:42:00
'Hahaha Susie.'

Hetty58 Mon 17-Feb-20 19:55:51
'Where is the Tory outcry on here?'

Greymar Mon 17-Feb-20 20:02:02
'Tory outcry on here, don't forget Corbyn is a very very bad person. ( thought I'd get in first)'

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 20:03:37
'Only a second?? Where the @*€$ are the rest of them???

Revolting behaviour from this Govt and the silence from the Tories on here is equally so.'

Nezumi65 Mon 17-Feb-20 20:04:06
Oh great minds SirChenjin

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 20:07:00
'Yep * Nezumi65* - although it doesn’t take a great mind to find the behaviour from No 10 morally reprehensible and repugnant, just a decent one.'

suziewoozie Mon 17-Feb-20 21:19:54
'Mmmm where were all the Boris adulants?'

MaizieD Mon 17-Feb-20 21:45:51

'I think some of us are a bit disappointed that none of our Boris lovers joined us in protesting about this rather obnoxious character'

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 21:50:52
'They’re all keeping a very low profile it seems suzie.'

SirChenjin Mon 17-Feb-20 22:13:39
'Tory voters should hang their heads in shame - or publicly denounce this revolting rhetoric'

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 00:26:33
' And still tge GM Tories are strangely silent.'

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 07:35:20
'River I care about the silence of GN Tories because they are free with their criticism of a whole slew of Labour politicians and supporters on here. Most of them are uncritical adorants of BJ and are confident all will be well.'

growstuff Tue 18-Feb-20 07:36:17
PS. I agree with you about GN Tories.

Yehbutnobut Tue 18-Feb-20 07:53:08
' The silence from Boris’ Babes is deafening.'

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 08:33:43
' Yeh Boris’ Babes - love it?. Their deafening silence may be explained as follows

1. They are all lying down in utter shock at how misled they have been or
2. They agree with all the comments but think maybe best not to say so atm or
3. They haven’t had time yet to coordinate their response and marshall their arguments yet but watch this space'

SirChenjin Tue 18-Feb-20 08:38:15
'Neatly summed up suzie.'

GagaJo Tue 18-Feb-20 08:42:49
'Nice one! Hope you're proud and pleased.'

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 08:49:48
'Of course they are - BB are looking forward to a shining new future full of clever white people, money saved on silly attempts to prevent FGM, the end of taking disabled led sport seriously ( phew) and doing as they are told in the bedroom. Make no mistake, there are plenty more AS and their leader is of course BJ.'
--

There then followed attacks on Granny Gravy 13 who was not defending anybody but her posts were selectively twisted to make her out as a bit of a Tory s** t.
---

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 09:06:01
But at least you’ve posted , unlike the rest of the GN Tories and I don’t recall you as being one of those who flung around words like. Corbynista etc

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 09:22:13
Generally those of us on the left on here, are much more willing to criticise our party. See the thread on the leadership contest. The GN Tories do not criticise BJ but bleat, give him a chance, As for DB, well Keir is the next leader.

suziewoozie Tue 18-Feb-20 09:38:05
'When GG comes back from GP duties, I hope she doesn’t feel ‘got at’.i do respect the fact that she’s prepared to engage with this thread. We have to ask her the questions because the rest of BB are in the fridge.'

Greymar Tue 18-Feb-20 09:44:39
'The Boris brigade are busy fawning over each other.'

As for Andrew Sabisky he was an odious character, The Tory Party were completely wrong to employ him or take one miniscule piece of advice from him.

The Tory Party deserve to be chastised as other Parties have over the lack of due diligence when employing or nominating potential candidates for roles within their parties.

I hope today the Tory Party will show contrition and not try and defend Andrew Sabisky because this mess is all of their making.

Sorry, this is Fascist.

There are many reasonable Tory voters out there ranging from slightly right of centre to further right.
His views go far beyond anything reasonable.

I don’t agree grow .He’s been tweeting this stuff for years - he has no morality at all. I don’t believe he had it and lost it.

Misogynistic, racist, classist, sexist , ableist Tory parents.

I assume that's what you're getting at.

To be fair, the man is an adult. I certainly don't hold my parents responsible for anything I've ever done or said in my life.

Errmm …

Union leaders?

Politics apart, if we are allowed, what kind of people bring up a son like that?

It's frightening.

Cummings needs to go and the decent Tory MPs need to stand up and be counted.

I suspect you're suzie. I still think it's sick that they weren't prepared to sack him for his views on eugenics and, even now, are making excuses for them. The reason, of course, is because Johnson (and probably others) agree with them.

The stuff from reddit is absolutely appalling.

I guess what AS has really done is give away the secrets of many a Tory male’s sexual ‘success’.Unforgivable so to do. ?

Even if Johnson gave us his opinion on the current debacle in any way that looked like an apology for allowing Sabisky to be hired I wouldn't believe a word of it. Firstly, because he couldn't lie straight in bed and secondly, because his previous statements have indicated that he holds similar views to Sabisky.

And people knew this before they voted for him.

Johnson was kept under wraps in the election campaign, I can't think that he has anything useful to add. Heaven help us, we have a potential emergency situation developing this shower at the helm.

It would appear that the Conservatives weren't prepared to sack people for his views on eugenics or compulsory contraception for the "underclass". He's been open about those quite recently and, posing as somebody interested in educational psychology, has given public talks. Dominic Cummings was saying much the same when he was Michael Gove's advisor at the DfE.

The reason Sabisky resigned (before he was sacked?) were his views about women and sex, which were uncovered by The National, such as:

“rewire” her brain “to the point where she no longer, consciously or subconsciously sees a conflict between a good Christian woman and serving you up 39 flavours of slut on command”.

Sorry if that offends. It was obviously a little too far, even for the Conservatives.