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New Labour LEADER

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Anniebach Sat 04-Apr-20 10:54:11

Keir Starmer .

Barmeyoldbat Sat 04-Apr-20 12:06:13

A happy outcome at last we can look forward.

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 12:07:56

And now non corbynistas now have the majority on the NEC.

Ilovecheese Sat 04-Apr-20 12:08:29

I liked the way he said he would not oppose the Govt for oppositions sake.
Loved the way he spoke of the real "key workers" in this country.
Hard to see what he could object to what the Tory Govt. is doing at the moment, Rishi Sunak has just delivered a socialist budget and discovered the magic money tree that Mrs May said did not exist. The army are helping to build hospitals. These are the right things to be doing , they are also left wing policies.

SirChenjin Sat 04-Apr-20 12:13:06

An excellent outcome - hopefully this will be the start of a more centric, moderate approach to UK politics to balance the craziness we’ve had over the last couple of years.

rafichagran Sat 04-Apr-20 12:18:49

I am really pleased with this.

Urmstongran Sat 04-Apr-20 12:34:14

I had to chuckle that Boris waited until Corbyn was out before inviting the opposition to a cross-party meeting next week!

EllanVannin Sat 04-Apr-20 12:40:38

I noticed that Urmstongran---if Boris is better that is because to me he looks rather unwell ?

Grandad1943 Sat 04-Apr-20 12:41:20

Galaxy in regard to your post @12:07 the Parliamentary Labour Party National Executive Committee is unchanged at this point in time. Starmer will replace Corbyn in the leadership seat and some seats allocated for shadow cabinet members will be replaced one for one.

The majority of seats on that committee are allocated to the trade unions, constituency Labour parties and other affiliate organisations, and they will remain unchanged.

Anniebach Sat 04-Apr-20 12:44:09

grandsd43 voters have shown we do not want the party we have now. If they did they would have voted for Long Bailey.

POGS Sat 04-Apr-20 12:45:02

Starmer's spokesman said: "This afternoon Keir Starmer spoke with the Prime Minister about the current national emergency.

"Keir offered to work constructively with the Government on how best to respond to the coronavirus outbreak, accepted the Prime Minister's offer to meet next week and agreed arrangements for Privy Council briefings and discussions."
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What a difference a day makes.

POGS Sat 04-Apr-20 12:53:10

Grandad is correct, the NEC will remain unchanged.

The ' Inner Circle' however may change and if the likes of Seamus Milne, Marie Murphy et al remain in situ you would know where Starmer's politics lie.

However I am sure Starmer has already set his ' new team' in place and it will be interesting to see who he chooses and get to know/understand their history.

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 12:55:20

No Grandad there was a by election for the NEC today, won by Gurinder Josan and Johanna Baxter, so once Starmer appoints his choices to the NEC they will have the majority. It is important because the NEC cant now block Starmer.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:00:26

galaxy yes the NEC will change its character now.

Grandad1943 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:09:47

The make up of the Labour national executive is as follows as you can see the majority of the seats are held by by trade unions constituency parties and affiliate organisations.

Below is the structure at the last meeting held prior to the Coronavirus closedown

Chair: Andi Fox
Vice Chair: Ian Murray
Leader: Jeremy Corbyn MP
Deputy Leader: VACANT
Treasurer: Diana Holland
Chair of Equalities: Ann Henderson
Shadow Frontbench: Jon Trickett MP
Shadow Frontbench: Rebecca Long-Bailey MP
Shadow Frontbench: Diane Abbott MP
Shadow Scottish Frontbench: Richard Leonard MSP
Welsh Labour Representative: Mick Antoniw AM
Young Labour: Lara McNeill
BAME Labour: Vacant
Div. I – Trade Unions: Mark Ferguson (Unison)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Howard Beckett (Unite)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Andi Fox (TSSA)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Pauline McCarthy (Bakers)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Michael Wheeler (Usdaw)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Wendy Nichols (Unison)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Andy Kerr (CWU)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Tom Warnett (GMB)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Jayne Taylor (UNITE)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Kathy Abu-Bakir (GMB)
Div.I – Trade Unions: Ian Murray (FBU)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Mick Whelan (ASLEF)
Div. I – Trade Unions: Joanne Cairns (USDAW)
Div. II – Socialist Societies: James Asser
Div. III – CLPs: Huda Elmi
Div. III – CLPs: Yasmin Dar
Div. III – CLPs: Rachel Garnham
Div. III – CLPs: Ann Henderson
Div. III – CLPs: Jon Lansman
Div. III – CLPs: VACANT
Div. III – CLPs: VACANT
Div. III – CLPs: Darren Williams
Div. III – CLPs: Pete Willsman
Div. IV – Labour Councillors: Nick Forbes
Div. IV – Labour Councillors: Alice Perry
Div. V – PLP/EPLP: George Howarth MP
Div. V – PLP/EPLP: Margaret Beckett MP
Div. V – PLP/EPLP: Shabana Mahmood MP

In addition, the PLP Shadow Chief Whip (Nick Brown MP), and PLP Chair (John Cryer MP) attend ex-officio without a vote.

Davidhs Sat 04-Apr-20 13:12:33

Grandad, Starmer is not going to abolish 40 yrs worth of legislation, there is much he could do to outlaw zero hours contracts and all the other recent practices that make the most vulnerable worse off.

He has to take a middle road because if you hit companies and investors too hard they pay less tax, so the government has less to spend on infrastructure and services.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:13:00

That has always been the case though hasn’t it grandad?

Pikachu Sat 04-Apr-20 13:21:31

Cometh the hour, cometh the man?

I’ll wait and see.

notanan2 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:24:20

Well I think the hour is here already dont you! He'll be in at the deep end from the get go

BlueBelle Sat 04-Apr-20 13:24:32

Wonderful news I feel he is a safe pair of hands and I look forward to a more centrerist opposition
I can’t comment on deputy not sure I know much about her
I did like Lisa Nandy
But I m happy with this outcome

Grandad1943 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:26:16

During the Blair era, the Labour Party national executive committee (NEC) was reduced to approximately twelve seats with the cooperation of the trades unions which believed that he would abolish all anti-trade union legislation.

However, that never came about and Corbyn once again enlarged the NEC to re-engage the wider movement within day to day policy activation.

That structure will not change again and should any sector try then I firmly believe that the Parliamentary Labour Party as it exists in being at present would be destroyed.

Starmer pledged to abolish anti-trade union legislation in his leadership campaign and that he will be held to account on, and in that no one should make a mistake.

trisher Sat 04-Apr-20 13:29:24

Keir Starmer won with only 56% of the votes, which means that virtually half of the LP didn't want him. It won't be much use him appealing to more centrist voters if he loses the vote of the left wing of the party and the activist young. Sadly I think many will view him as the real heir of Tony Blair -lawyer turned politician- and it will take great deal of work to convince them of his sincerity.
I would have prefered to see a woman leader.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 04-Apr-20 13:42:11

which means that virtually half of the LP didn't want him.
No, it doesn't. There is no way you can know that. It simply means that the remaining 44% had a higher preference for one of the other two candidates.

It's interesting that, until recently, we were being bombarded with 52% being "the will of the people" while we are now told that 56% means "half of the LP didn't want him". Neither were true; they are both simply outlandish, counterfactual nonsense that take us nowhere.

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 13:42:39

He is not the heir of Tony Blair, I think the likelihood of him being PM is very low although the current crisis could change that. His job is to make the labour party .

Galaxy Sat 04-Apr-20 13:43:18

Missed of electablegrin

Callistemon Sat 04-Apr-20 13:48:09

He is youngish so could become PM depending on how he manages to keep the LP together in the next few years.