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Donald Trump - leader of the 'free' world!!!

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Franbern Thu 16-Apr-20 10:44:37

With Brexit, we are fast becoming another state of the USofA. Some people may think this could be a good thing.......
Others, like me, think it is going to be totally disastrous. Even if USA still had a humanatarian President like Obami, it would be wrong on so many levels, but with the current orange nightmare - to me - it is even more frightening than the current Pandemic.
Thought this summed him up

NotSpaghetti Tue 21-Apr-20 13:21:46

Shocking article in the Washington Post today about PPP Rosecarmel
BIG companies have circumnavigated the system and sucked all the cash out.
Why am I not surprised?

Dinahmo Mon 20-Apr-20 17:30:19

Some of the financial handouts have been paid directly to the banks of the "beneficiaries". The banks have been snaffling that money to pay off outstanding loans.

rosecarmel Mon 20-Apr-20 15:38:07

At the very bottom of the above image are social services ..

SNAP is the federal food program .. For individuals and families that are food insecure - Look at how little it was given ..

Dinahmo Mon 20-Apr-20 15:07:46

QuizQueen and SodaPop

Trump is absolving his responsibility - he's mentioning specifically 3 Democratic states when he tells governors to end the lockdown and he has been encouraging the demonstrators to turn out in their 100s, with their guns. Virginia has been a Democrat state since the 2008 election and is one of those under attack from Trump, especially because the governor is introducing more gun legislation.

rosecarmel Mon 20-Apr-20 14:52:39

LullyDully, if Trump wins we lose, and if he loses we lose- There is no winning for the people I'm afraid-

The stimulus packages were bipartisan efforts-

www.visualcapitalist.com/the-anatomy-of-the-2-trillion-covid-19-stimulus-bill/

yggdrasil Mon 20-Apr-20 11:26:00

MaizieD : It's all to do with the Americans' love of 'freedom' someone told us on another thread.

Americans' freedom means doing what they want no matter what it does to anyone else. Especially if it makes them money

LullyDully Mon 20-Apr-20 11:17:58

What really worries me is that he seems likely to win again. Why can only very elderly men stand for election? Trump should be self isolating at his age!

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Apr-20 06:32:35

rosecarmel it’s exactly the same in the U.K. It leaves me bewildered.

rosecarmel Mon 20-Apr-20 04:24:35

Testing is key to reopening the country- As it stands, there is no reliable test in production in the US yet- They're chomping at the bit and clutching at straws- Throwing good money after bad by continuing to purchase tests from China that keep proving to be poor quality and inaccurate- And they are supposedly voting on another stimulus package this week- More cash handouts to millionaires ..

MaizieD Sun 19-Apr-20 22:07:57

It's all to do with the Americans' love of 'freedom' someone told us on another thread. hmm

I don't understand it myself. I just don't understand it.

rosecarmel Sun 19-Apr-20 21:31:35

No rhyme or reason to it!

But it's true, all that money for small business is gone, right along with the promises, promised ..

So many never completely recovered from the last crisis- It's remained a barely doable, daily struggle- A struggle that has been made even more difficult without healthcare-

NotSpaghetti Sun 19-Apr-20 01:08:06

rosecarmel - whilst my son and other small businesses he knows in America have had no support from the government schemes (and apparently the money has now run out), a friend of his who is currently in America on a work visa has had support even though he is British and over there on a temporary basis!

rosecarmel Sun 19-Apr-20 01:01:08

Fauci touches his face often ..

rosecarmel Sun 19-Apr-20 00:58:48

I noticed- And I don't understand it either-

Especially the medical experts-

And not one of them appear to be advocates for front line workers-

I don't understand ..

Grannynannywanny Sun 19-Apr-20 00:47:21

On the subject of daily press briefing, why do Trump and his team ignore social distancing guidelines? The journalists are sitting apart in their seats but while Trump is speaking his team are sitting literally shoulder to shoulder side stage. Then they each come up to speak and rest their hands where his hands have just been. Boris Johnson and several of his advisors all contracted covid 19 within days of each other. I’m surprised the same hasn’t happened in the White House

rosecarmel Sun 19-Apr-20 00:37:52

Trump and his entire Coronavirus task force lie during their daily briefings-

It all began with: Your chances of contracting the virus remain low-

Now they stand there and insist there's enough testing, enough medical equipment-

There isn't-

rosecarmel Sun 19-Apr-20 00:19:00

There isn't enough room to list every organization, country county, village and holler that's corrupt .. smile

Evoha16 Sat 18-Apr-20 21:53:05

I wholeheartedly agree - let’s petition the NZ government

vampirequeen Sat 18-Apr-20 21:31:00

Just the WHO and China? Are all other governments and organisations whiter than white?

Lucca Sat 18-Apr-20 18:46:47

Quiz queen are you a “trumpette” ?

rosecarmel Sat 18-Apr-20 18:04:19

The WHO is corrupt- So is China-

rosecarmel Sat 18-Apr-20 18:00:44

There is no "one size fits all" approach-

Each state government assessed their vulnerabilities, strengths and damage-

Once done, it was reported to the federal government-

Each state was then declared a disaster by the federal government- The declaration allows the release of federal funds and assistance-

That's how it works, by law-

Nowhere in legislation does it state "my way or the highway"-

From the onset, Trumps concerns have been himself, the economy and bailing out corporations- In that order-

sodapop Sat 18-Apr-20 16:52:18

I agree quizqueen I am far from being a fan of the man but there is often some truth in his comments. There are many people who agree with him about WHO.

quizqueen Sat 18-Apr-20 16:22:44

Some of the Governors of individual states complained that Donald was not a King and couldn't tell them to relax their lockdown rules, so he changed his mind and said that it would be up to individual states when they did it. Now, these same governors are saying that he is absolving responsibility!!!! Not everything is Donald's fault although most of you like to think it is.

rosecarmel Sat 18-Apr-20 16:11:03

Nobody we know have received stimulus checks-

Nobody we know has received their unemployment pay-

Nobody we know received small business grants-

One person we know received a 60.00 boost in their food assistance program back in March- That's for a family of 8-

Corporations raked in millions from the stimulus- (remember, money = votes)

Thousands are lining up at food banks as food bank donations decline-

Instacart food delivery service has jumped into prescription delivery services as the number of people waiting for grocery delivery keeps increasing, unable to secure a delivery date-

There isn't enough protective equipment -

There isn't enough testing-