I’m delighted Boris is back!

SirChenjin ???

I feel super patriotic today!
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And again here www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/04/tories-protect-nhs-coronavirus-slogan

The number of deaths.

Scroll right down that article until you get to ‘Full list of MPs who voted against the pay rise’ - and then scroll down further till you get to Boris Johnson.

My point is that Greece is still in lockdown.

Think you need a re read S.C! 28th June 2017 MP's voted whether to lift the cap on public sector pay. Tories who voted against the government in order to lift the cap included Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock!
The cap was eventually lifted under Mrs Mays government!

This might give you a clue - scroll down the page till you get to the UK. Scroll down a lot further until you get to Greece coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

galaxy ^ looking at the success in countries such as NZ, Greece^

My friend who is Greek and lives in Athens tells me they still have 2 more weeks of lockdown to go. How do you define "success in Greece"?

Of course I am pleased that Johnson has recovered from Covid-19, and that he is able to get back to doing his job. This cabinet, like any cabinet, needs to be properly led.

And I am prepared to forget any mistakes that may have been made in the early weeks, provided his government gets it right from now on.

But I thought his come-back address this morning was a bit too much head of house encouraging the lads to get out on the touch line and support the team in the rugger cup final. Worse still, I was reminded of Macbeth: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Deeds now, please, not just words

The majority of countries have had to deal with those restrictions, I so hate the war comparisons, so distracting and pointless.

Oh Urm - you do make me laugh

Ah varian we still have to agree to disagree over Brexit I’m afraid!

I’m even more determined the U.K. will do well after Brexit - especially when I read of all the EU wrangles over funding issues post Covid-19. We can & will plough our own furrow and, I’m convinced, do well financially as we will be able to tailor taxes, inducements and trade incentives to suit ourselves. We will not be afraid. We will be innovative, nimble and brave. I honestly believe more will rally to the cause.

Hurrah for the U.K. ?? where Boris, the great liberalist, has promised to level up. Change for GOOD is coming and not before time!

Even the EU is casting aspersions upon China SirChenjin.
The Chinese Communist Party are a devious lot. I’m happy (where I can anyway) never to buy ANYTHING in future that carries a label ‘Made in China’. I would rather go without.

I think you’re right though SCj it’s time for more transparency and openness to be shown to all the political parties. That cross party involvement and consensus can only be a good thing.

? to you Grandad1943 as although we are on different ends of the political spectrum, I admired your generosity of spirit in welcoming Boris back to lead us all forward.

I’m delighted (if not a little surprised) to see the surge on here with the same opinion of Boris as me! Truly, I thought any sharing my opening sentiment would join me in the minority!

Maybe see some of you on future political threads perhaps? That would be grand! Especially now that we all agree it’s GREAT to have Boris back.
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You might want to check your facts Jabberwok www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1269007/NHS-pay-mps-voted-against-nhs-nurse-pay-rise-Boris-Johnson-Matt-Hancock-voting-history/amp

Sorry, posted by mistake (we all make them!) Boris incidentally voted for that pay rise! But don't let the facts diminish the vitriol!

Yes SirChenjin, I knew that a positive thread about Boris being back would attract the sort of comments it had, but the ‘simple and innocuous’ words I referred to were mine, in amongst many likeminded people who posted the same. For me, although it was in agreement with the OP and in itself innocuous and my view on the matter, I had allowed myself to be drawn in after having decided not to comment on political posts anymore. Must try harder!

Boris voted

I applaud you Grandad1943. Excellent posts.

Come on - you must have known that a post about a man presiding over a country with the fifth highest death rate in the world and whose party cheered when they voted not to award NHS workers a pay rise (the same NHS workers who are now dying to save others) wasn’t “innocuous”.

Good posts Grandad1943. A couple of days ago I made a decision not to comment on political threads anymore, but this morning I saw Urmstongran’s thread and thought a simple and innocuous ‘Welcome back Boris’ should be ok! ???

I don’t like the comparison with war when people’s health is concerned but if by pulling together you mean we should all continue to observe social distancing and other measures recommended by the medical and scientific evidence then of course, that’s simply common sense and no-one with less than an ounce of it will disagree.

The real, significant difference will come about when a vaccine or drugs become available, and we can only hope that this Govt doesn’t continue to botch things up during the remainder of this wave and into the next to the extent that we move into a higher position on the league of death rates.

Grandad, your posts have been excellent. I agree with them 100%. You speak with clarity and much common sense. As you have stated, this terrible virus is completely unprecedented, and whichever government had been in power would have struggled and made mistakes especially at the beginning when it was virtually impossible to judge , underreact? overreact? somewhere in the middle? A difficult call! It's going to be tough time ahead that's for sure, but we will get through it! I'm all for a bit of optimism

And in the meantime, there are politicians who seem to believe that they should prioritise brexit, that Boris Johnson vanity project, and so they are refusing to extend the transition period so that it is becoming increasingly likely that the UK will have to leave the EU on WTO terms, meaning that the damage done to our country because of the coronovirus will be increased to the nth degree by the nonsense of brexit.

These people are hell-bent on damaging and possibly destroying the UK.

For those that state they do not understand what "pulling together" means, then let us take a look.

We have witnessed in Britain since the start of the lockdown UK citizens reduce their travel to less than a third of pre-crisis levels.

We have witnessed business owners and their employees accept the shutdown of their work and the general public overwhelmingly accept that the services provided by that businesses will no longer be available to them.

This British nation has accepted that daily life has fundamentally changed and will continue to be that into the foreseeable future, or until a vaccine becomes widely available.

The United Kingdom is in a war which it simply has to win for life to return to normal. As in all conflicts, there are always armchair generals who are so wise in the criticisms of others after events have taken place.

Do we have evidence of that? The racecourse quoted the CMO of Scotland in their letter
The letter, sent just before the Festival began, also quotes advice from the then chief medical officer of Scotland, Catherine Calderwood, who said: “There’s actually very little impact on virus spread from mass gatherings, particularly if they are in the open air.” Calderwood was subsequently forced to resign after facing intense criticism for breaking her own rules to twice visit her second home during the coronavirus outbreak.