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What a shower - they are not fit to govern the country

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Cindersdad Mon 11-May-20 09:03:15

Following on from Boris Johnson's performance yesterday evening the comments from so many can be summed up by saying "What an idiot". Totally lacking in clarity, yet more spin designed to try make the government look better. I've been watching Good Morning Britain just now. The more we see the more it becomes apparent that they really haven't got much of a clue. Moderate Tories, Labour and others in Parliament need to force a change in government with a coalition of common sense pending a general election when the truth has come out.

The problems can be traced back to the Thatcher era when profits, privatisation and a lack of caring for society was the mantra. Brexit was just the latest example of not caring about the good of the country. Recent austerity for the sake of saving a few pence on income tax left the country unprepared for any sort of emergency let alone a pandemic.

The performance of the UK must be compared with that of Germany, South Korea and other countries who have handled the situation so much better. They have for years maintained Health and Care systems at a level with capacity to react, kept a manufacturing sector vibrant and seen an over reliance on the service sector as bad for their countries.

We should have tested from the start and where resources were limited tested where it really mattered. Assume that those in hospital with symptoms were positive and only testing those who were likely to pass the infection on. The true of deaths can only be estimated based on compariing this year's figures with those of recent years.

It will take years for Britain to regain the status it squandered away. We have the talent, may have the right type of leadership in some as yet less well known politicians. No quick fix just a slow gradual return to values that really matter.

So write to / email your MP's asking them to take a lesson from 1940 and form a government of National Unity, cancel Brexit and call a general election when and only when the situation is properly under control. Only parliament, if they have the courage, can call the executive to account.

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 13:47:01

Glorybee I would also define myself as a decent person with the qualities you quote. I would also like to add pride and conscientiousness especially when making life choices. There are many who continue to bring children into the world that they cannot afford to feed. They feel that it is the governments responsibility to provide for them and not their own. Their lack of the qualities you quote is hard to believe.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 16-May-20 13:48:37

I do find it amusing that on the majority of forums including GN, twitter etc., the personal insults emanate from those who's allegiances are left leaning.

One could almost think that they were smarting from losing elections and a referendum?

Jabberwok Sat 16-May-20 13:55:13

Sorry, that was obviously a typo error, well, to most of us anyway, but in the interest of clarity for the uninformed was Balliol! (It's an Oxford College,for additional clarity!)
Most people who go to Eton have family connections, so not much of an advantage for special treatment in fact none at all!
Gosh GG13, do you think so? Surely not!!!!??

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 13:55:47

GrannyGravy13 Yes, that's my feeling too. They are just bitter and twisted and refuse to acknowledge how many previous Labour voters voted Conservative.

GagaJo Sat 16-May-20 13:56:17

Yet another right-winger talking about an election that took place almost 6 months ago. Yet no comment on the deaths of BAME people, the vulnerable and those that are currently suffering.

Interesting perspective.

GagaJo Sat 16-May-20 13:59:22

Prediction

Gransnet 2024
*Boris fans*: You're all just bitter because Labour lost in 2019. And Corbyn was an idiot too!

Barmeyoldbat Sat 16-May-20 14:14:25

The one thing that worries me most is that when we finally exit Brexit we are hoping to do more trade with China and be best friends. So making a fuss about where this virus started and Chinas part in it isn't going to help.
If it had been a labour government in power and we started spending the money Boris had there would have been an outcry from his fan club, typical labour spending all this money and so on. He has spent a great deal of money and a lot of it to the good but he has also wasted a great deal as well as wasting time. I think his school report would have said could do better

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 14:17:04

GagaJo You do not have a monopoly on empathy for BAME people and the vulnerable and let me tell you that you will never win another election. Many of your party members have seen the light as shown in the last General Election. It's time you accepted your failure with good grace and backed the government we now have and its leader Boris Johnson who deserves the support of the country at this difficult time.

Lucca Sat 16-May-20 14:18:40

That’s you told Gagajo

SirChenjin Sat 16-May-20 14:22:15

Circuses always leave town Janpt - the Tories and their Big Top will move on too. Such is the circular world of politics.

I find it hilarious that when factual inaccuracies in the right wingers posts are pointed out they’re unable to come back with anything more than claims of personal insults.

paddyanne Sat 16-May-20 14:30:10

Snob central on here ,my degree is better than your degree because the group running the Universitys says so ....Quite honestly I know people with no qualifications who could do a better job than Bojo

Greta Sat 16-May-20 14:35:00

I agree, SirChenjin. But we must not hold anybody to account. We must all support the government, whatever they say or do, because times are difficult. And just imagine what it would be like with somebody like Jeremy Corbyn at the helm? I thought he was history but he keeps popping up in some people's mind!

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 14:36:40

SirChenjin You really are pathetic. The only inaccuracies are left wingers who won't admit they have lost and will never win again. If you find that hilarious it says a lot about you.

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 14:38:24

Greta At last a leftie with some common sense.

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 14:39:54

paddyanne Don't talk such rubbish. Boris Johnson is very well qualified to be Prime Minister.

Dinahmo Sat 16-May-20 14:40:23

Glorybee You're someone who cares about social justice but i assume from your post that you're a Tory. So, caring about social justice as you say you do, why did you support the Tories through 10 years of austerity (now proved to have been unneccessary)?

SirChenjin Sat 16-May-20 14:43:03

A whole stream of bitter right wing consciousness there Janpt - you sound very wound up. Try and relax smile

Dinahmo Sat 16-May-20 14:44:08

Those northerners who voted Tory in he last GE in preference to Labour did so because they thought BJ was "one of them" Witness 5 working class men, sharing a bedsit, all living away from home on zero hours contracts who were voting for Boris because he'd see them right!

It would be good if the TV company that interviewed them originally could find them again and see what they think now.

Dinahmo Sat 16-May-20 14:46:25

Janpt How do you know that Greta is a leftie? Are you making that assumption because she said we must support the government?

Greta Sat 16-May-20 15:01:53

I'm afraid I have to disappoint you, Janpt. I have never been a "leftie" and my middle name is tongue-in-cheek.

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 15:02:19

SirChenjin If it makes you feel good to think that someone whose party won the General Election with a massive majority may be 'wound up' so be it, feel free. That won't alter the fact that your party lost.

SirChenjin Sat 16-May-20 15:05:56

My party? What party would that be?

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 15:06:21

Greta So pleased to hear that you are one of us. I made the assumption when you agreed with a leftie but as you say perhaps tongue in cheek.

Janpt Sat 16-May-20 15:09:03

SirChenjin The raving lunatic Labour party of course !!

SirChenjin Sat 16-May-20 15:11:23

Yes, I’m sure you do think that. None of your posts have been on the mark so far and this one is no different.

You sound like you’re losing the plot. Is your keyboard smoking?