What a shower - they are not fit to govern the country

Of course they ignored the Cygnus Report

Not only did they ignore it, but the private company which was contracted to mange the emergency stockpile turned out to be so woefully inefficient at stock management that masses of it was out of date when the emegrgency happened and the stockpile was needed.

So much for the superior performance of private enterprises

(And, of course, we could have afforded to maintain the stockpile in line with the Cygnus recommendations; see my post above...)

I’m voting for you in the next GE MaizieD ✅
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Thank you for explaining how our economy works.

GagaJo even Australia now blame the Communist Chinese government for covering up the coronovirus back in mid-December ‼️

This killer virus started way more early than was admitted by China. Trump wasn’t afraid to say so first. Countries could have been told ahead of the curve but information (and poor Chinese scientists in Wuhan) were suppressed.

The whole thing stinks. All this ‘new normal’ thanks to a corrupt communist regime. It’s not the Chinese people. It’s their rotten government. Remember Mao’s Great Leap Forward in the early 1950’s? More than 60 million Chinese died trying to fulfil Mao’s dream. Communist China does not give a fig about it’s population. They are expendable at the altar of ‘supremacy’ in competition with the West. Their government is not open and transparent. We cannot believe any figures they produce.

Just imagine if this virus had escaped from Porton Down?! How absolutely appalled we'd all be! we most certainly would be totally ashamed both of our government and country! But neither we or any responsible government caused this pandemic and yet, at a moments notice we are somehow expected to know exactly how to handle it to pre ent it from becoming completely out of control, having last experienced anything even rremote the same back in 1957!
No of course its not the fault of the Chinese people anymore than Nazi Germany was the fault of all Germans. It most certainly is the fault of the Chinese government and it would be nice if they could accept their shortcomings accept liability and perhaps even apologise instead of suppressing their own countrymen and lying through their teeth.

Well said Jabberwok.

I AGREE! China were to blame.

HOWEVER, if my next door neighbour had started it, it would make NO difference.

Fighting it in England is what we need to do. We live here. We need to focus on what WE are doing to try to overcome this.

Bickering about who is to blame is doing nothing. It is what TRUMP is doing for gods sake and he is regarded as a brain dead buffoon.

We live in the UK. 31 and a half UK citizens have died and you want to continue arguing about who started it instead of focusing on the fight? That isn't strategy. It's Colonel Blimpism.

Our government are the ones that are directly affecting the current British battle against this disease. We have some slight effect on their policies (I say slight, because Cummings is in charge and he doesn't seem to give a toss about anyone other than the wealthy) through public opinion and pressure.

But by all means looking back instead of how we can move forwards through this. Whatever gets you through.

Jeez. 31 and a half THOUSAND.

Cindersdad...I seem to remember that you were an avid Jeremy Corbyn fan who often posted about the iniquities (real or imagined) of the Conservative Party, so your remarks hardly come as a surprise.?

I never fail to be amazed by some people. Global pandemic? Staring death in the face? Political bickering.

Tell that to the OP ! Or perhaps you are doing.?

I agree with her point about testing. We STILL aren't doing it properly! How hard can it be? My Swiss school is testing every adult and child that returns. They stay locked in their room until their test comes back clear.

Matt Lucas

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Ah but they managed a 100000 tests didn't they - well for one day they did. Of course if anyone actually got the results of those tests no one knows. After all we had to send some off to the US and think how long those results would take to get back. There needs to be a consistent trace and test policy and practice but that won't bloody happen.

Grany That Matt Lucas is great Have you seen Matt Hancock being helped by Mike Spicer?
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maybe the queen should take back the power to make the laws.

lemongrove if the best you can do to support this shower is to accuse someone of being a Corbyn fan it's a bit pathetic. He's gone. Unfortunately we are left with the worst politicians I have seen in my life time. Still I suppose that's what you get when you vote in someone who has never had any principles.

trisher funny he hadn't a clue what he was talking about

I don't think anyone who voted for Boris thought he had principles. They might have expected him to be able to be a politician though.

The virus though, I agree, any government would have struggled. But given that the current incumbents have spent 10 years stripping the country of its assets, they had nothing left to fall back on.

Boris has been in charge for 8 months, 5 of which were a minority government. How can he be responsible for the financial crisis which occurred in 2008 under the Labour administration of Gordon Brown which led to austerity, none of which was the making of his or the present government? Thank goodness JC and his merry band are gone,at least that is something to be grateful for! Now they really were the worse set of politicians in anyone's lifetime, including HM!!

Incidentally, how do you cancel Brexit? We've already left and would have to apply to rejoin! Another GE?!! How can the present government be unseated with an 80 seat majority?!! Don't think I'll be worrying my MP with these rather absurd proposals!!

Oh, FFS. Not the bl**dy Financial Crisis!

When are people goign to stop believing in this utter nonsense and spouting economically illiterate tory propaganda about it.

It was a GLOBAL finacial crisis. If it hadn't have been for the quick thinking of Alistair Darling and Gordon Brown in initiating £245billion of Quantitative Easing the major banks in the UK would have failed. Which means that everyone who had accounts with them would have lost all their money. Then you might have had a genuine reason for castigating Labour.

As it is, 'austerity' was completely unnecessary as we have a sovereign currency and are able to issue as much as we like of it. The QE wasn't borrowed from anyone; there was notheing to 'pay back'. All that austerity did was to hinder recovery; because recovery from a recession depends on people and governments spending money and as the tories cut everything they possibly could they deprived the economy of money.

A national economy is not like a household economy. There is no national credit card to 'max out'. There is no limit to the money a government can spend. The only way that could damage the economy and cause inflation would be if there was nothing to spend it on.

The tories are completely and utterly responsible for the utter mess that the NHS is in today.

Jabberwok How many more times? The financial crisis was not caused by Gordon Brown. It was a direct result of the failure of sub prime mortages in the US - fannie mae and freddie mac.

Austerity was a political decision on hte part of the right wing of the Tory Party.

On Sunday the PM clearly stated that workers, particularly construction workers, could go back to work today, Monday. That speech was pre -recorded and honed - no blustering, waffling or bumbling. And yet no one noticed his error, put right today, that Wednesday was the day he meant. Perhaps Cummings wants to get rid of him? A conspiracy perhaps?

Ok , keep your hair on! How do we cancel brexit and instigate a General Election!

Brexit cannot at this stage be cancelled, but the least that a responsible government should do is to extends the transition period until such time that the pandemic is over and we can then resume sensible negotiations.

To allow the final exit from the EU to go forward without proper negotiations would be nothing short of criminal. We could, in effect, end up with a no-deal brexit which would damage our country for generations to come and only benefit the vultures of disaster capitalism who conspired to fool decent folk into voting for this disaster.

It would have been a disaster without the pandemic but should now be, to any patriotic politician, totally unthinkable.

Jabberwok, Boris is a member of the Tory party. Supports their values and focuses. He is not new and different, he's part of the Tory status quo. They have been in for 10 years and have caused the financial mess we're in and are now killing off a huge number of the population.

Fair enough, you support them politically, but I fail to see how you can support the huge mess they're making now.

And get over Jeremy Corbyn. Blimey. You're more obsessed than a Corbynista!