What a shower - they are not fit to govern the country

janpt all guns blazing I see this morning.

Care home deaths cover-up suggests Johnson and Hancock are guilty as sin

Read it

Letter from the opposition KS one from PM BJ
And all there in black and white

What do you think of this government now Janpt

voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/05/15/care-home-deaths-cover-up-suggests-johnson-and-hancock-are-guilty-as-sin/

Whitewavemark2 What a stupid comment you make. He is already back at work after being so ill with Covid 19. He also has a degree from Oxford so the way you describe him shows what little understanding you have. However it is only to be expected from a member of the party you obviously support.

Janpt ???

growstuff Boris Johnson is far better suited to run the country than the Marxist morons Corbyn and McDonnell. Have you chosen to overlook the majority of votes he got at the General Election supported by many previous Labour voters. The Labour party is a lost cause.

growstuff my point is that the vulnerable elderly per se do not have an organised body, like a union, to look after their interests. The CQC does not have that role nor that power.

There are those knocking the teachers professional bodies simply because they are saying ‘hold on let’s look at this more carefully and not walk blindfolded into a situation that is not fully assessed or understood’.

These are respected and thoughtful professional bodies who are looking, not just at the H&S of their members, but that of the children and other school staff. It is impossible to separate all these various issues.

Whether or not schools reopen should be decided rationally after looking at the best scientific evidence we have available currently.

It is not to be decided by intemperate ranting about ‘the unions’ as if this was some car plant operating in the 1970s.

Well said Jabberwok

Boris is a real toff with that air of quiet and self deprecating authority which is what matters in a leader.

People have discussed Belgium's high death rate and there have been explanations as to why it appears so high. Right from the beginning, Belgium has included care home deaths, including those who weren't tested, but died with Covid-19 symptoms.

If the UK had done the same, our per capita death rate would be higher and might very well be much higher than in Belgium.

PS. I don't recall that Starmer's questions to Johnson at PM's QT excluded Wales.

Pantglas I don't know the answer to this question, but who is actually responsible for Welsh care homes? Westminster or the Welsh government?

Sparkling Could you explain what you mean because I'm blowed if I understand how Starmer is "politicising" this.

I agree with you to an extent Furret. I think some workers in care homes did try to speak up, but many were silenced.

Let's not play the "divide and conquer" game. Just because people in care homes have been treated abysmally, doesn't mean other people should be treated in the same way. The big lesson here would be to learn from the casual "laissez faire" approach to care homes and make sure it doesn't happen elsewhere.

sparkling at least the teachers have their unions to speak up for them and protect their H&S and they are backed by the BMA - or is that also just an influence to cause ‘upset’?

Pity the tens of thousands of elderly dead in care homes had no advocates in this uncaring and chaotic government.

I also want Sir Keir to raise concerns about the Welsh Labour Government performance on testing, care homes etc here in Wales but he’d rather turn a blind eye on that wouldn’t he!

I know imagine having someone clever in charge. The reason those in care homes are suddenly the focus of concern is down to Keir Starmer. I want the leader of the opposition to raise these concerns. I am so relieved he is there.

Johnson cares? About himself, yes.

sparkling better a clever thinking lawyer than a mendacious, lazy, amoral and not very bright leader, who hasn’t a clue.

Can you imagine if Corbyn had got in? Now we've got a sharp lawyer politicising this awful pandemic for political purposes, he knows the law and the technicalities of it inside out, will extremely wealthy and ambitious.already they have the unions causing even further upset in schools, teachers want to resume teaching safely, Mary doesn't. Don't any of you have any idea that the country is in crisis , they don't come up with any support just knock everything. I am so glad Boris us in at least he cares. I spoke up for Keir when appointed but I am now disgusted, my father a very strong Labour supporter and campaigner would be disgusted, he spent his life working for them, he would look now and consider it wasted effort, for he was an honest and committed winking man.

Lies

Just yesterday.

Hancock lied about the Reproduction number - the R. Saying it is falling

It isn’t it is rising.

Hancock said that “right from the start we put a tight ring of defence around our care homes”

There is so much information out there that contradicts that, it is ridiculous. Care homes had no testing, no PPE, no contact tracing, no support.

Hancock stated that there were 133k tests yesterday, up by 6k on the day before. But only 69k people tested, 2knfewer than the day before.

How can test numbers be rising, but people tested falling?

Madness.

Two things are pretty clear.

The first is that the government lies now on a regularly basis. Every day, what comes out of their mouths at the press conference and I n the commons Is breathtaking in its attempt at continual deception. Most people can now identify a lie that this government has told.

The second is that the governments avoidance of scrutiny where at all possible. - refusal to take part in such flagship programmes like newsnight. Scrutiny of government action is essential in a thriving democracy.
This government simply falls over when scrutinised. It knows it, which is why it avoids questions. Trump does the same.

The thing is Pantglas2 Belgiums death rate has begger all to do with us,33000 DEATHS here is all we need to be concerned about ..the government or lack of in the UK that allowed it to happen,the late lockdown ,lack of PPE ,promised ..not promised ventilators.etc etc etc and dont metion the ever vanishing PM .

The only people responsible for the huge death rate is the UK government.Scotland wanted to go into lockdown over two weeks before Boris would sign it off.Thats what we mean by power devolved is power retained..we cant do whats needed without the chief clowns say so....and he rarely says anything sensible

Why do you think Belgium has a high death rate? I’m willing to discuss it. In fact I’ll google it. Perhaps they went into lockdown too late? Or didn’t advocate the wearing of masks. I’ll try to find out.

Why won’t anyone discuss Belgium’s high per capita rate?

Johnson isn't fit to run a parish council! He might amuse the old ladies with his school boyish charm, but he's incapable of making decisions which affect nearly 70 million people.

The high death rates in Italy, France and Spain don't mean that the UK government isn't a shambles and useless. I don't follow the logic.