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Tweet from Lord Sugar

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Buffybee Sat 16-May-20 17:31:31

I can’t say I’m a massive fan of Lord Sugar but I find myself agreeing with the sentiments in his tweet.
I too, am sick to death of all the negativity re: the handling of Covid19 by the Press and TV News.
This Pandemic had been a Global disaster but we are going to come through it and the Government are, obviously, doing their very best in unprecedented recent times.

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 23:33:37

Right; I've listened to it again. 30% of children of primary school age have gone back to school in France. But there have been 70 new cases linked to schools [no breakdown; not sure if it's children/teachers etc]. So 7 schools have had to close down. I would assume that schools that have remained open here have had a limited number of children in them and they've probably spent a lot of time outdoors. Perhaps we can just use the French children as our guinea pigs to see what happens? Then again, this government doesn't seem to pay much attention to what happens in other countries. I know that, from listening to parliament today, parents with children that live in areas where the virus infection rate is rapidly increasing are very worried about their children going back to school. Thankfully my grandchildren will continue to be home schooled until we feel it's safe.

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 23:00:17

I've just heard that since the French schools reopened [30% of the children] there have been 70 new cases but I need to listen to the report again as I didn't catch if it was amongst the children [I don't think it was] or the local population. So, you think we need to get the children back into school so we can find out more about how the virus spreads amongst children? Interesting.

lemongrove Mon 18-May-20 22:24:30

Firstly, no country with a sizeable population has done terribly well in being able to combat Covid-19.....because it’s a completely new virus.However, what can be said is that all countries are doing the best they can.
Secondly, we won’t have a lot more knowledge about how the virus affects children or the rate they can spread it until there are children back in the schools!
All that they can say though, is that where schools have been open (with key workers children attending) it doesn’t seem that they are acting as super spreaders, the way children normally do with colds or flu.

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 21:38:05

Well, France haven't exactly done terribly well in combatting the virus thus far. But at least they have a leader who admitted that he'd messed up and apologised for it. Maybe, by September there will be a lot more knowledge about the virus and how it affects children. And, why is it ok for public schools to remain closed till September?

lemongrove Mon 18-May-20 21:33:22

France has done the same MayBee (young school children returning.)
They have to go back at some point ( things won’t be any safer by September in any case.) If it’s a slowly phased return ( and it will be) then nothing wrong with that.

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 21:27:26

Well, Gove is quite happy to use comparisons with Denmark when it comes to sending children back to school even though their infection/mortality rate doesn't in any way compare to ours.

Buffybee Mon 18-May-20 20:42:33

Well Merkel would be used to the numbers but even though 84 million, Germany:
only 240 people per square km
UK:
274 people per square Km
And the majority of that amount in England:
430 people p sq km.
UK being so heavily populated would make the contagion more difficult to contain.

MaizieD Mon 18-May-20 20:30:10

How about Merkel, then? Germany, population 84 million.

Buffybee Mon 18-May-20 20:09:24

Well.....I wonder if Jacinta would manage as easily in the UK as she has in New Zealand:
268,000 square Km with just under 5 (Five) million people and
UK 242,000 square km, so smaller than New Zealand, with around 67 (Sixty seven) million people.

Lucca Mon 18-May-20 20:00:52

Salsa queen thank you but still no mention of what he does well!

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 19:32:46

Ok; let's forget about Labour. How about if this country was governed by say, Jacinta Arden or Merkel. How do you think Johnson would compare to them. Or, Trump perhaps [his nearest rival in the death rate competition].

Ilovecheese Mon 18-May-20 18:24:04

Now you see, to me, Janpt you would sound more convincing if you had not added the comment about the Labour party. Confidence should not need to be qualified by that sort of remark.

Janpt Mon 18-May-20 18:22:55

SalsaQueen Well said I totally agree with you. I doubt very much if Labour could do any better. They should give Boris Johnson and the Conservative party their full support when they are dealing with such a difficult situation. Keir Starmer has said as much.

Janpt Mon 18-May-20 18:16:36

Ilovecheese Those words were a quote from SalsaQueen
not my words. I am very confident in Boris Johnson and the Conservative party. What a shambles it would be if Labour were in power !!

MaizieD Mon 18-May-20 18:01:35

Sadly, Johnson's ability is not particularly good... If this is the best he can do God help us for the next four years...

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 18:00:52

He hasn't got Brexit sorted out. We're hurtling towards a no deal Brexit [something that nobody voted for] and it now turns out he's lied about border controls in Ireland. Even Arlene Foster is distancing herself from him. I agree he's doing it to the best of his ability, though. Which is why we're in the mess we're in now.

SalsaQueen Mon 18-May-20 17:37:10

Lucca I reiterate - Boris Johnson has been PM for less than a year, has got Brexit sorted out (against a lot of opposition), has had all this Covid-19 to deal with, as well as having had (and still recovering from) it himself. His GF also had it. He's had to arrange for businesses to be paid, their employees to be paid - all by this furloughing scheme- as well as extra funding for the NHS, the PPE, and countless other things to deal with. THAT'S why I believe he's doing the very best job he can. If you think otherwise, that's up to you, but I'm sick of hearing such negative things in the press, and on here, about Boris Johnson and his government. What's the point? He was elected to do the job, and he's doing it to the best of his ability.

MaizieD Mon 18-May-20 17:07:23

I think it's you that janpt thought was a 'sensible tory voter', Lucca. I cannot think what made her think that.

I don't think we're gong to get any explanation of what makes Johnson such a successful leader.. (apart from the 2:1 from Oxford)

Lucca Mon 18-May-20 17:00:19

Janpt. With respect I don’t understand your post ? Is i to me or salsa queen ? A sensible Tory voter ??
Why do you think that ? Still no answer though about Boris Johnson’s qualities

tickingbird Mon 18-May-20 16:29:26

Trisher I bow to your superiority when it comes to political bias. You could have written the handbook.

Ilovecheese Mon 18-May-20 16:23:18

Janpt When you use expressions like "Old man Steptoe" and make out that people are not sensible unless they vote Tory, then that looks to me as if you are not as confident in Boris Johnson's handing of the pandemic as you would like to be.
If you need everyone else to either agree with you or to be somehow lacking, you sound uncertain.

Also, not all Tory voters agree that Boris Johnson is doing well.

Janpt Mon 18-May-20 16:12:10

Lucca SalsaQueen Sun 17-May-20 18:17:19
Janpt Boris is doing the very best he can, in an extremely difficult situation. Perhaps some people would have preferred --Old Man Steptoe--Corbyn
Quote from SalsaQueen above but perhaps you're one of the ones who would have preferred Corby. Pity, I had you down as a sensible Tory voter.

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 14:51:21

seem to be having a problem with predictive text today..

Lucca Mon 18-May-20 13:51:42

Janpt. Polite note...still waiting to hear what is bloody marvellous about Boris? (Apart from just not being corbyn)

MayBee70 Mon 18-May-20 13:48:42

Janet: can you tell me exactly what he’s done to make you think that?