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Will he resign?

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MaizieD Fri 22-May-20 22:09:15

News breaking tonight that Dominic Cummings and his wife, when ill with Covid-19, put their child in the car and drove 260 miles from London to Durham so that they could isolate at his parent's place and his parents look after the child. This happened some time after 27th March. Remember lockdown was imposed on 23rd March.

Seen in his parent's garden with his child on 5th April.

Neil Fergusson resigned because his lover visited his house after lockdown.

Scotland's Chief Medical Officer had to resign after visiting her second home twice after lockdown.

Cummings and his wife drive 260 miles to stay with his parents (who must be in their 60s at the very least)... What will he do?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-investigated-police-after-22072579?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Story is in most of the MSM now.

cassandra264 Sun 24-May-20 11:49:30

He should resign. No question. It is clear that he did not abide by the rules that the rest of us were expected to follow - and that most of us did - for the good of everybody else.

We have all made sacrifices over the past couple of months - and some, for some people, have been huge. His actions show no respect or consideration for anyone else. His position is a very influential one and he should be setting an example.

donna1964 Sun 24-May-20 11:52:05

Cummins is too arrogant to offer his resignation. He should be made to resign. he had the audacity to tell those outside his home to respect the 2 meter rule yet breaks rules himself! Him and his wife grinning in the car as they drove away from their home...both of them need that grin taken off their faces. They think they are above everyone else and can do as they like...no they can't!! I hope the public don't let this drop and the pressure is put on Boris to sack him!! The Andrew Marr program is a good watch today whereby he challenges the Transport Secretary on this subject. Pity the Transport Secretary did not do his homework and research before he went on the show...all of them should no better! People have not seen their Parents, Children & Friends and adopted the rules put in place to protect others. People have lost close one's through this Covid 19 and where never able to be at their side in their final minutes of need! Why should this arrogant imbercele & others making the rules and then not following them get away with it??

Nannan2 Sun 24-May-20 11:53:18

There was a lot of er -erring and floundering to find answers on the update (probably after you'd switched off then WOODMOUSE 49?) I watched all of it.Tbf to Jenny Harries,she didnt stammer,but kept saying that the 'rules' are to self- isolate if someone has covid19 symptoms-along with all the household- so from that i assume she also believes Cummings was in the wrong but she could not say so!hmm And of course they were all going to keep on asking about the same thing- its what they wanted most to know about!

Jane43 Sun 24-May-20 11:55:27

Shapps seems to be the fall guy yesterday and this morning and he has struggled to answer some questions. Sky took the unprecedented step sending him in advance the questions Sophy Ridge was going to ask and he was still unable to answer some of them satisfactorily. The top guns are obviously happy to throw him under the bus showing a lack of leadership, courage and integrity. I’m just watching the Sophy Ridge interview and she is handling it much better than Andrew Marr.

Nannytopsy Sun 24-May-20 11:58:03

Of course the arrogant fool won’t resign but I hope someone has the balls to sack him.

Nannan2 Sun 24-May-20 12:00:59

I love the tee- shirt Furret- where can i get one?grin

Revilo Sun 24-May-20 12:02:47

Of course he should resign but this whole government think they are above the law Boris doesn’t even take the daily press meetings because he is a complete and utter Incompetent twat who has no clue what is actually going on in the real world

GagaJo Sun 24-May-20 12:04:09

Wasn't going to put this up here, but since Furret put up a t-shirt...

GagaJo Sun 24-May-20 12:04:53

Didn't attach?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-May-20 12:07:38

There is one thing that is puzzling me and that is there appears to be no automatic numberplate recognition evidence thus far?

We have more CCTV than any other country in the western world, where are the photographs of his car on the motorways? Where are the photographs of his car parked up/travelling to/from the other places he is alleged to have visited?

He has admitted to doing what he thought best for his young child.

I defend anybody who does what they think is the correct thing to do for their child, I do not condone witch hunts or trial by media

(There is no way on this earth that I would have left any of our children with a couple of our relatives, regardless of ^lockdown guidelines^)

Mollygo Sun 24-May-20 12:09:01

Perhaps we should ALL wear tracking device anklets that you could find anyone in simply by typing in their name while this is going on. It would save the journalists such a lot of work -and we would also know where they, our neighbours, friends, family, etc. were.
Do I think he should have driven that far? No, but with his circumstances I might well have done and without a journalist, a local spy or a tracker, no one would have known.
Do I think others should be allowed to flout the rules because he did? Only those who have been flouting the rules anyway would think that a justification.
I would imagine any churchgoers among you could be remembering John 8v7 or Matthew 7v3-5.

GagaJo Sun 24-May-20 12:11:26

Well in that case, GG13, he could have just stayed in London, if he didn't want to leave his child with relatives. That was the WHOLE point of going, surely? OR to be near relatives, which they already were, in London.

MaizieD Sun 24-May-20 12:13:08

Being able to stand in the same shopping aisle as a stranger shopping in Tesco but not being able to go and say hello to your gran over the fence while walking past

Can you quote the lockdown rule that says that, qq ?

If you don't I'll take it that you are just making it up and your opinion is therefore worthless...

Blinko Sun 24-May-20 12:14:49

I admit to feeling sorry for Shapps this morning, and last evening at the press briefing. It wasn't he who wandered hither and thither wherever he felt like it after all. Why would he know the finer details of Cummings's - er - comings and goings over the past month or so.

It should be Cummings and/or Boris answering these questions.

The arrogance displayed by DC simply adds fuel to the media determination to pursue this issue.

Could BJ operate without him?

icanhandthemback Sun 24-May-20 12:22:34

I was happy to defend a couple of parents not wanting to leave their child with a Nanny when they were ill because I would have been sympathetic to anybody in those circumstances. However, it now appears that this wasn't his only trip so there is no defence for that that I can think of. Will he resign? I doubt it, he'll have to be pushed.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-May-20 12:22:57

According to Sky news DC has just arrived in Downing Street maybe the trial by MSM has worked, or maybe it is just another day at the office?

GagaJo Sun 24-May-20 12:23:25

Cummings SiL lives in London. Now I don't know about you, but I'd say my brother and his family are close family.

Qwerty Sun 24-May-20 12:25:07

Apparently Dominic Cummins has entered 10 Downing Street! There is a petition on change.org and there is a link to it in The Guardian, which is free on line.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-May-20 12:25:12

My Sister in law lives less than a minutes walk away, there is no way we would leave any of our children with her.

MaizieD Sun 24-May-20 12:27:29

but with his circumstances I might well have done

Have you read any of the thread, Mollygo?

His 'circumstances are that:

1) He was instrumental in devising the bl**dy rules

2) He and his wife had family IN LONDON who could, presumably, have been asked to help out

3) His wife published an account, in The Spectator, of their 'isolation' experiences which stated clearly that she was ill with covid19 by the 27th March and that her husband was ill with it 24 hours later and was so badly ill with it that he couldn't stir from his bed for TEN days. And that the child was with them all the time during that period.

From an earlier post in this thread

..on the 24th April his wife said Dominic Cummings collapsed and was confined to bed for 10 days with severe breathlessness after contracting the coronavirus, his wife has revealed. Writing in The Spectator, Mary Wakefield said her husband should have been hospitalised when his symptoms worsened.

The child:

A direct quote from Mrs C's Spectator piece:

As Dom lay sweating, Cedd and I made a palace out of polystyrene packaging. .........and to cap it all my only really useful advice for other double COVID parents or single mothers (ha ha) with pre-schoolers: get out the doctor's kit and make it your child's job to take your temperature.

Where was the 'alternative childcare'?

Thank god for journalists is my opinion...

Janetashbolt Sun 24-May-20 12:27:34

surely the child was in the car with the sick mum and dad, so whoever looked after said child was then exposed!!

grannie7 Sun 24-May-20 12:27:59

The Queen went to Windsor on the 17th March for her protection.Prince Charles was sent to his isolated home on the Balmoral estate for his protection.
William Catherine and their children were already in their home on the Sandringham Estate.
We only have one Queen one P Charles etc.
If I and my family died tomorrow it’s wouldn’t impact on the country.
If we lost our Queen and her heirs to these dreadful virus.
It would impact on the whole country.
They were sent to where they could be protected I believe that was the right thing to do and really don’t feel it’s in anyway related to
Dominic Cummings braking the Government rules.

Urmstongran Sun 24-May-20 12:28:08

Actually maybe Cummings’ sister/brother in London also have children and didn’t want to risk taking on the responsibility of looking after their nephew?

MissAdventure Sun 24-May-20 12:28:44

That 13 yr old boy, the one who was buried without any family...

Still, thinking you "may get ill" trumps that.

Craftycat Sun 24-May-20 12:29:40

NO - he should NOT resign.
They had small children & they had signs of the virus. They did the sensible thing & took their children to their grandparents while they isolated. Highly unlikely they passed it to children or parents as it has since proved.
If their parents had been 20 mins away we would never have heard about it.
Of course it was leaked by a member of the opposition.
I know very little about the man but as I see it they were acting as concerned parents.
Why is everyone on this site suddenly so judgemental? It used to be a nice friendly site.

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