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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

Next one

GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 31-May-20 08:20:49

If this is true, then I can’t see how he will survive.

CUMMINGS “SPARE COTTAGE” IS WITHOUT PLANNING PERMISSION AND PAYS NO COUNCIL TAX.

varian Sat 30-May-20 19:56:03

Remember that questions relating to Cummings three years in Russia has never been answered. Has he been responsible for supressing the publication of the report into Russian interference in our elections?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/03/dominic-cummings-labour-questions-russia-links

Whitewavemark2 Sat 30-May-20 19:15:21

“If”

growstuff Sat 30-May-20 19:13:31

Theresa May said the following in a speech to her constituents:

“What this matter has shown is that there was a discrepancy between the simple messages given by the government and the details of the legislation passed by Parliament.
In these circumstances I do not feel that Mr Cummings followed the spirit of the guidance."

I think she's right. It is undoubtedly correct that Cummings did not break the law and, therefore, cannot have the law book thrown at him. In any case, he seems happy to be in contempt of Parliament, which he has still failed to address.

He used the legislation to justify his actions, which almost nobody had read, but which he must have known in fine detail. Meanwhile, the plebs followed the strong message given out by the government.

It shows total disdain for what others had done and were doing. That's the main message.

I'm glad Professor Van-Tam spoke as he did, considering what Therese Coffey said, in an attempt to "blame" the scientists. I'm sure he knows he's just blown his chances of an honour.

This is about Johnson now and his inability to manage without Cummings. He's surrounded himself with a lacklustre cabinet, who can't help him out, and isn't listening to his own backbenchers.

The 1922 Committee hasn't called for Cummings' resignation, but called Johnson to a meeting during the last week and is putting pressure on him to include more backbenchers in decision making, rather than relying in Cummings. They're worried about support from their own constituencies, especially those in marginal seats.

May7 Sat 30-May-20 18:52:00

We both actually cheered when he spoke up. Hope that's not the last we see of him though

merlotgran Sat 30-May-20 18:34:28

A very clear message from Professor Van Tam. Somebody with a backbone at last.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 30-May-20 18:18:25

At last someone willing to tell the truth.

At last someone who can live with himself

MayBee70 Sat 30-May-20 16:49:51

Professor Van-Tam...respect! Thought he was going to walk out. Good man !,

MissAdventure Sat 30-May-20 12:46:18

I don't think it's going to make the slightest difference, but there is a huge bonus to having browsed the petitions and signing one.

The police responsible (probably) for causing the death of a man in custody by standing on his neck, have now been arrested.

I'm consoling myself with that.

varian Sat 30-May-20 12:11:57

More than 1 million people have now signed the petition to support sacking Dominic Cummings

www.change.org/p/dominic-cummings-must-be-sacked/u/26760627?cs_tk=AuaFMo0qvNIsQcJ91V4AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvJxB80l6zfPJ7ew7mUwMRAc%3D&utm_campaign=41212b9b8e254c7fa181109e0e31592e&utm_content=control_v0_0_2&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs

Callistemon Fri 29-May-20 17:27:12

grin Grandad I love your sense of humour!

NfkDumpling Fri 29-May-20 17:21:45

Not that it’ll make one iota of difference, but the Change.org petition is nearly at 1,000,000.

Grandad1943 Fri 29-May-20 17:09:31

Only by an Android phone MaizieD, that's all ?

MaizieD Fri 29-May-20 16:50:52

Has Grandad been abducted by aliens and replaced by an android?

Elegran Fri 29-May-20 14:30:00

Grandad1943 , I hope that in your last post you were being deeply ironic.

MayBee70 Fri 29-May-20 14:10:53

Thanks varian. Brilliant article, isn't it.

varian Fri 29-May-20 13:52:27

www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?next_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2foutlook%2f2020%2f05%2f27%2fboris-johnson-dominic-cummings%2f

MayBee70 Fri 29-May-20 13:51:13

Can anyone do a link to the Washington Post article re Johnson and Cummings? We are the laughing stock of the world. Even a country with Trump as it's leader pities us.

varian Fri 29-May-20 13:39:52

Very strong???

Did you see him at the LIason Committee- bumbling and jibbering, umable to answer an questions and looking around in a panic like a toddler who needs his nanny to hold his hand.

Grandad1943 Fri 29-May-20 13:26:56

I believe that Johnson has (in his judgment) placed himself in a position of being seen as a very strong leader in the eyes of many in the electorate.

With a no-trade deal scenario with the European Union very much in prospect that perceived unshakeable leader image may play very well with many within the Tory Party and also many outside.

As for the nineteen twenty two committee, a no-deal scenario is certainly what many on that body wish for, so there will be no rocking of the boat from that quarter.

trisher Fri 29-May-20 12:23:51

There is also the fact that some of the Conservative MPs who have condemned Cummings are members of the 1922 Committee an organisaton which has consistently held the power to make and unmake Tory leaders. Many of them will see this as an opportunity to demonstrate where power still lies. The question being when will they choose to act? I think they will leave Johnson to shoulder responsibility for the virus and then drop him and his side kick. Jeremy Hunt is there waiting in the wings.

MaizieD Fri 29-May-20 12:14:21

I've just seen that too, Ww2 . I was about to post it here grin

It's very good.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-May-20 12:10:52

It isn’t going away sack Cummings is still trending

MayBee70 Fri 29-May-20 12:08:33

Urmstongran: am I right in thinking that you had to stay in another country because of that countries lockdown policy. And, if so, what would have happened if you’d just decided to ignore the policy and travel home a la Cummings. And, if you had done so would it have morally been the right thing to do ?

Urmstongran Fri 29-May-20 09:23:40

Oops!