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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

Next one

GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 12:37:02

Yes I’ll give it a go .
I’m not much good at links.

Nandalot Tue 26-May-20 12:36:00

Interesting, whitewave. Do you have a link? I’d like to read more.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 12:31:31

Something else.

Do you remember Cummings saying in defence of some criticism of his handling of the virus that he had written about the potential for a pandemic “ last year”.

Apparently he has gone into last years blog and updated it with stuff about the potential pandemic!!

That has been challenged and No 10 has acknowledged that it has been updated. Well they could hardly do anything else could they?

Dear oh dear.

Rosalyn69 Tue 26-May-20 12:13:37

Good spot janipat.
I thought it was odd when he said it that he was suddenly well enough to collect them.

janipat Tue 26-May-20 12:11:31

Why is it only when you don't preview a post you have grammatical errors smile?

janipat Tue 26-May-20 12:09:49

Just seen another inconsistency on another forum. DC who was too ill to accompany his wife and child in the ambulance, drove to the hospital to collect them the very next morning because "there were no taxis" Not that Mary Wakefield should have even have considered exposing a taxi driver to coronavirus in the first place.Hmmm, not one of the ever concerned sister or nieces couldn't have gone to collect them. Thought they were in Durham just for that kind of family support? It just keeps on unravelling.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 12:05:14

Still masses of social media posts deriding and questioning Cummings and of course Gove and Johnson.

The government’s credibility is slowly but surely being eroded.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 12:02:32

?grumppa

grumppa Tue 26-May-20 11:52:40

Nice slang story, whitewavemark2. I had assumed it was Cockney rhyming slang, as in “That Cummings geezer is a right Barnard.”

MaizieD Tue 26-May-20 11:36:30

Interesting. A barrister on twitter, David Allen Green, who I've been following for years, analysed a transcript of part of Cummings' statements, the bit about the visit to Barnard Castle. He (DAG) said that he's been reading Cummings' blogs for a long time and the style of the statement was nothing like his usual writing style. What it did resemble closely (and, being a barrister he will be very familiar with them) was a Statement, as given to the police in connection with a crime. It was very 'lawyerly', he said. (I've given statements on more than one occasion and I must say I think he's right).

But if a lawyer was involved in writing/producing Cummings' statement they surely would not have allowed him to incriminate himself by declaring that he was probably unfit to drive when he took his little eye tester trip to Barnard Castle?

twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1264943223329501186

Apart from that I think the whole story has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese..

Chewbacca Tue 26-May-20 11:19:55

Douglas Ross has just resigned from the cabinet because of Cummings. First of how many?

Luckygirl Tue 26-May-20 10:43:39

*A government minister quits because a spad won’t quit!!,..
Quite extraordinary. A constitutional nightmare*

Indeed so.

Galaxy Tue 26-May-20 10:39:56

The Q&A on TripAdvisor are very funny, they had removed the reviews last time I looked?.
I thought his eye movements were really weird when asked about informing the PM.

trisher Tue 26-May-20 10:35:43

Did anyone notice his eye movements during the press conference? Isn't there some link between eye movements and lying?
If you want a laugh look up Barnard Castle on Trip Advisor and read the comments about visiting.

Galaxy Tue 26-May-20 09:56:47

And sometimes when one minister shows some integrity, more follow.

Grandad1943 Tue 26-May-20 09:55:11

Kate54 Quote [ For those disappointed in Labour’s low profile, Starmer and team hopefully preparing with forensic details for tomorrow’s PMQ. Fireworks expected!] End Quote.

Kate54 Sadly parliament is in recess (yet again) at present and do not sit again for at least another week I believe. Starmer's only opportunity to really get at Cummings, Johnson and this whole government was over the weekend when the crisis was its height by appearing strongly on the media

I feel Starmer could have applied for opposition response time to make a formal statement on the matter on all the main television stations simultaneously.

The above would have been very difficult to deny to Starmer as the government had used the daily Covid briefing to speak on the Cummings debacle and allowed Dominic Cummings himself to use Downing Street to make a statement on the issue when he is not even a formal member of the government.

Huge opportunity missed by the Labour strategists undoubtedly

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 09:51:29

If you think about it.

A government minister quits because a spad won’t quit!!,..

Quite extraordinary. A constitutional nightmare

Greta Tue 26-May-20 09:46:54

There are so many random components in this London to Durham trip that it's difficult to make any sense of it. Allegedly the main focus was to get childcare should DC and/or his wife become ill. Then we learn that childcare wasn't actually needed after all. So the 260 mile journey and, of course, the same distance back to London was completely unnecessary then.

We also learn that the child fell ill in Durham. Perhaps the long car journey was too much for him.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 09:45:45

He isn’t as clever as he thinks he is.

Another trait that his boss has.

Lucca Tue 26-May-20 09:44:48

Good for Douglas Ross a Tory with principle and integrity. Let’s hope there are more.

janipat Tue 26-May-20 09:43:51

Just thought of another "fail" in his story. He believes his wife has coronavirus, he's worried he may get it too and both be too ill to look after their son, so drives to cottage on father's farm, to self isolate for 14 days. Then during his statement he harked on more than once that he thought they were bringing in testing for advisors, so if he tested negative he could return to work, knowing his wife and child were being cared for. No he couldn't!! He'd still have to quarantine for 14 days, is he so unaware of the rules he helped formulate? Doesn't say much does it!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 09:41:13

curleywhirly

Reading your post.

Yes the more you think about it the more you realise he is trying to play us.

Apparently war games is his obsession. Look at his blog! He tries to apply those rules to playing Westminster and the country.

He is imo mad as a box of frogs. With the crackpot theory based on utter nonsense.

His act yesterday bears no resemblance to his reported personality and no one should be taken in by it.

It was a pantomime, the like of which I hope never to see in the U.K. again.

Galaxy Tue 26-May-20 09:39:49

A junior minister has just resigned.

FindingNemo15 Tue 26-May-20 09:39:46

janipat. Thanks for info. I am surprised the press has not picked up on this and made more of that fact.

Curlywhirly Tue 26-May-20 09:31:45

Whitewavemark2 I completely agree - the more I hear of this story the more I think Cummings decided to pull a 'sickie' and visit his family for Easter (and wasn't it his mother's birthday and his wife's too?) I also don't think the visit had anything to do with the child's welfare; if it did, why oh why would anyone subject their child to a 4/5 hour journey cooped up in a car with someone with covid19?? There are so many holes in his story: wife accompanied child to hospital when she had just shown signs of covid19, shouldn't she have been isolating (even if she felt better)? If I had suspected covid19 I wouldn't want to be anywhere near my child or ambulance and NHS staff. The completely unbelievable excuse of a test drive to Barnard Castle with his child and wife, supposedly to test his eyesight - to keep the child safe, he shouldn't have been on that test drive with his father. Not much child safety going on in that family. I don't believe Cummings would have put his child's health in danger in those ways, and that's why I don't believe his story.