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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

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GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

Luckygirl Tue 26-May-20 09:22:39

First thing in the morning and last at night I put Classic FM on and every hour they play this:

"This is a message from the government about coronavirus; do not leave home if you or anyone else in your household is showing symptoms."

Perfectly clear to me.

Kate54 Tue 26-May-20 09:16:55

For those disappointed in Labour’s low profile, Starmer and team hopefully preparing with forensic details for tomorrow’s PMQ. Fireworks expected!

merlotgran Tue 26-May-20 09:10:36

Why did his wife not mention their child's overnight stay in hospital in her article?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 08:59:33

Look????

Had to check this was not a spoof. It isn't. A "Barnard Castle" is indeed an old slang term for someone making a specious excuse. It derives supposedly from rhe conduct of Sir George Bowes who hid in Barnard Castle during the Rising of the Northern Earls in 1569.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 08:53:55

Just heard one theory leading on from the suggestion of big party.

That the whole thing was a pack of lies.

That when Johnson got ill, Cummings saw his chance to have a jolly in Durham with family. The covid story none of which adds up, was just that to explain his disappearance.

janipat Tue 26-May-20 08:47:34

It was suggested on the radio that he really went to Durham for a family celebration. Pity we could not find out if his parents/sister/nieces had a "big" birthday!!

FindingNemo15 the trip out on 12th April to that beauty spot Barnard Castle 30 miles away (the one to test if his eyes were up to driving) just happened to be his wife's birthday. Happy coincidence eh?

Anniebach Tue 26-May-20 08:46:27

John MacDonald and his soft but deeply cutting remarks ?

Such as ‘you f*****g losers’, and this to MP’s in the Labour Party on stage in the O2.

merlotgran Tue 26-May-20 08:45:27

If he was hoping to come up smelling of roses he'll be disappointed.

This isn't going to go away.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 08:43:49

My thoughts exactly!

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 08:39:50

None of it stacks up.

In fact I think it is even more unbelievable since the rose garden

Daisymae Tue 26-May-20 08:38:53

His explanation doesn't stack up. I keep coming back to the point that he put his child into a car with another infected person. Plus why didn't his wife drive back?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 08:37:37

Returning to Cummings.

Cummings made it clear yesterday that the rules do not apply to him. There is still no evidence that either him or his wife had covid as he claimed, in fact there are two or three different stories that have come from that household.

Having a small child to care for is unfortunate when illness strikes, but it is not exceptional. All of us have been in that position, and some have had to deal with far worse.

Cummings simply doesn’t get it does he? If everyone decides that their Circumstances are exceptional and therefore can move around the country then the virus will spread like wildfire.

Lives will be lost as a result.

Cummings somehow managed to read the small print which only he was aware of and find an excuse to travel around the U.K.

The result of his actions has given the government a real headache (a headache of it’s own choosing, most would have simply sacked him) which has resulted in far too much energy and attention given to one expendable individual.

FindingNemo15 Tue 26-May-20 08:36:41

Complete pantomine. It was suggested on the radio that he really went to Durham for a family celebration. Pity we could not find out if his parents/sister/nieces had a "big" birthday!!

Grandad1943 Tue 26-May-20 08:30:22

Had he still been on the Labour front bench I believe it would have been a great moment for John McDonald to have been in front of the media.

With "that grin" and his soft but deeply cutting remarks, what a moment of opportunity that could have been.

Lucca Tue 26-May-20 08:25:45

“ left wing bitter morons”.
Excellent debating language there and utterly meaningless.
Another post mentioned “loony lefties and remoaners,” also brilliant. not.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 26-May-20 08:25:43

Starmer hadn’t disappointed me. In fact I think he has played the whole thing just right. He hasn’t followed the herd and continuously called for resignations etc. That has been left for the media and other Tories and opposition parties, to act as talking heads. Instead he has given a television interview making clear that his opinion is that Cummings should resign or Johnson should sack him. Nothing more need be said for the time.

You continual threats don’t play well grandad

Marydoll Tue 26-May-20 08:21:51

Galaxy, I too believe, Kier Starmer is being very clever and playing a long game.

Galaxy Tue 26-May-20 08:16:22

As I said on the other thread, where you posted the same comment, I am a labour member and think he is doing brilliantly.

Grandad1943 Tue 26-May-20 08:01:37

As a lifelong Labour movement subscriber, I have to say that it was fortunate that the press did carry out the deep questioning of Cummings, for Kier Starmer has been nowhere to be seen throughout this weekend of deep crisis for the government.

The invisible man who evidently lacks the judgment to know when the opportune moment is for an opposition leader to "show up" and really go after the government.

A huge disappointment for all who are Labour subscribers and without doubt Starmer has failed his first real test as a leader.

May not play well when the trade union members political levy subscriptions have to be reaffirmed later this year.

NfkDumpling Tue 26-May-20 07:44:35

Did the media have to put in its questions in advance?

Firecracker123 Tue 26-May-20 07:43:29

It was a trial by media and leftwing bitter morons baying for blood. Its all political trying to take the government down.

Urmstongran Tue 26-May-20 07:39:02

I couldn't believe the journos were going with their rehearsed questions rather than probing some of his statements. It made them look a bit silly as some of their questions weren’t relevant.

wendyann23 Tue 26-May-20 07:22:10

Vegansrock, totally agree with you. I would have more sympathy with him if he had shown the slightest sign of remorse or regret. He seems to think they are guidelines where the rest of us interpreted the lockdown rules as instructions. Still think it is one rule for him and another for the rest of us. Just hypocrisy.

vegansrock Tue 26-May-20 06:33:08

Made me smile

vegansrock Tue 26-May-20 05:58:44

Lots of people ignore the rules but the difference is they aren’t running the government, writing the rules and the snappy “stay at home” catchphrases. Dominic Cummings is. You should lead by example and if you are telling others what to do you should always be seen to be following your own rules. By not doing so he has become a hypocrite of the first order. If the only defence is he acted out of instinct, that gives the rest of us the green light to do whatever we like.