Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

Gagajan I am quite happy for you to have your opinion ,but that is what it is, YOUR opinion. I do not think are in a position to talk about my friends when you do not even know them and find it quite insulting that you do so in such a dismissive way.
People all over the world have their own views on this country and the government and these views should be respected.

I fail to see how anybody can respect Boris Johnson as PM. Many years ago I worked for a man who was very similar. This man's mantra was ”look on the bright side”. My job was to keep the books in good order, he made it his job to make himself invisible. He was also extremely economical with the truth; part of the reason why he only lasted one year.

As regards Boris Johnson one is reminded of his Eton tutor's illuminating remarks. He would now probably say "told you so".

Wordsworth's line: ”The Child is Father of the Man” is very apt.

Lucca

I apologise if my post upset you. That was not my intention.

… as is the media-bashing narrative.

varian That note also said something about keeping Johnson in post was the only way to ensure Brexit "got done". I found it quite odd when I first read it because I hadn't come across people criticising Cummings and saying "Oh goodie! Now we can cancel Brexit". The whole thing is a pro-Brexit narrative.

Your post at 11.21. Absolutely, varian

The irony is that is those who want to keep Cummings who are implying Johnson is useless without him, who are effectively giving a vote of no confidence in the PM.

Devizes MP Danny Kruger - son of Bake Off judge Prue Leith and is also close to both Cummings and Wakefield - has sent a note to the new intake of Conservative MPs stressing how important it is that Cummings remains in government.

In it he stressed those calling for the senior aide to resign were effectively giving a vote of no confidence in the prime minister.

Tory MPs told to save Dominic Cummings to ensure they ‘get Brexit done’

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/danny-kruger-on-dominic-cummings-and-brexit-1-6672377

No.

No.

Gajahgran Why did the attempt to link the pandemic to Brexit come from those supporting Brexit? It has emerged in the past couple of weeks as a theme and was confirmed by Danny Kruger's message to other MPs.

Can you think of a Prime Minister worse than Johnson?

Can you think of a President of the USA worse than Trump?

How does negativity (or positivity, for that matter) alter facts?

Where are you contacts who don't think the UK is a laughing stock Gajahgran. I must say that all the contacts I have in other countries think the UK is handling this badly and think Johnson is an object of derision. I guess it depends what kind of people you know.

I don't think Johnson is a buffoon. I think it's an act to detract from what kind of person he really is and what he thinks of the electorate.

Goodness I just returned to this thread to find my son is Being criticised for his feelings. He moved to Australia when he was 30 so I think he’s entitled to feelings for the country he was brought up in. He is also deeply upset because I still live here as does his brother. Calendargirl your post has really upset me.

Gajaygran asks -

"Varian what is your friend basing her views on? I have family in NZ and was there myself in February and I did not come across this attitude. I think it must be media again."

NO, Gajaygran, I don't think so. My NZ friend has lived in many countries and has contacts all over the world, including a daughter and grandchildren in the UK, so I don't think she relies on the media.

She may also have looked at the statistics from covid related deaths. New Zealand has had 22 deaths, which is 4.5 per million of its population. The official figure for the UK is 39,045, which is 587 per million. It is hard to imagine anyone looking at these figures and not concluding that our government is doing a terrible job of dealing with the pandemic.

www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Any one wondering where Johnson has been? I assume he will turn up today?

That is you then westendgirl who cannot accept another point of view. We will have to agree to disagree.

If Lucca’s son intends to return here, that is another matter of course.

That's kind of you, Cg. Permission to be 'heartbroken' if he comes back here to live..

I think it's a trifle arrogant to think that you can dictate what other people should be feeling..

Boris is a fumbling , ill prepared Prime Minster.
After winning he was not seen as he was taking too many holidays.
In the run up to corona virus he only attended 1 Cobra meeting out of 5 held.Where was he?
First Question time in Parliament against Sir Keir, he was totally incompetent and not prepared for it.
He won because of the false promises to exit from Europe. Going by Sunday newspapers, the government has failed to take this matter forward and Europe is not happy. He will no doubt blame the corona virus problem for that.
He was late in giving Lockdown instructions and his government failed to provide PPE for NHS & Care Homes. This resulted in so many deaths
He failed to sack Cummings and would not answer the questions put to him.At 5 different interviews all he said was well I have answered this question before. I did not hear his answer.
Cannot even do his hair, but to his credit has at long last mastered the art of tucking his shirt in his trousers.

I'm afraid Gajagran that you know nothing at all about my friends and therefore are not in a position to say what they believe in. This type of response comes up from those who always think they are right and are not willing to accept the other point of view, or indeed that there could be another point of view.

I don’t think my post is strange MaizieD

By living abroad, I assume that means he isn’t just working there for a defined time, more that he is now living outside the UK on a permanent basis.

If that’s the case, I can understand him being interested and concerned about what is happening here, but heartbroken sounds a bit dramatic, as it doesn’t affect him as such.

My own daughter lives in Australia, and takes a keen interest in what is going on here, as it affects us, but it’s what goes on there that is her main concern, what their government is doing, and how her own family are impacted.

If Lucca’s son intends to return here, that is another matter of course.

There has been a thread wondering if division will ever heal in the U.K.

I am afraid that as long as you vote for the politics and subsequent ideology that Johnson aspires to there will always be division.

That is how populist politics works. The same in USA .

At the moment it is elite v the people.

Or remain v leave.

This type of politics can only function when it identifies an us and them. That focus is always directed away from government actions and criticism of it to wards “others”

Next it will be

Those who kept to the rules of lockdown and those who didn’t.

It is the sort of politics which while creating various situations in which we find ourselves will always find an “other” to blame.
It does so at the moment with a largely compliant media.

I console myself that nothing lasts for ever.

Varian what is your friend basing her views on? I have family in NZ and was there myself in February and I did not come across this attitude. I think it must be media again.