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Meghan's Speech

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merlotgran Thu 04-Jun-20 09:23:07

I would have applauded this speech had Meghan been an A list celebrity in her own right and not used her marriage to a member of the RF as a leg up on to the platform she now occupies.

Now she's back in LA where she always wanted to be, she's in the thick of massive racist issues involving violent demonstrations. It seems it was ever thus in the USA.

I couldn't help thinking back to her self pitying comments about racism in the UK. Now we're caught up in the turmoil caused by an act of racist violence in her own country where she fled to 'escape' her unfair treatment over here. hmm

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jun-20 10:05:12

maddyone you mean too nasty since the racists on here has been called out?

Yes let’s close it down,

What does that say about GN?

maddyone Sun 07-Jun-20 10:00:01

paddyanne
Me too, I won’t post on this thread again either.

maddyone Sun 07-Jun-20 09:58:08

This thread is becoming far too nasty. It really should be closed down.

paddyanne Sun 07-Jun-20 09:56:56

I can kind of see where Furret is coming from,Kate ,(aka waity Katie) hung around a lot of years and changed herself to suit the man she had set her sights on.NOT what I would ever want a child of mine to do .Meghan Markle is a strong modern woman who is more than capable of her own decisions about who she is.
Dont get me wrong ,I am no admirer of either and if you look back a few months I got vilified on a thread by several posters because I called M & H bloody whingeing royals.Seems I was right ,any of you"ladies" want to apologise for dragging me and my decisions decades ago into what became a very personal attack .
Annie far left.....seems to be your go to for anyone who thinks differently from you and your brand of socialist /monarchist /tory light .You really should decide what side of the political fence you belong on .I wont be posting on this agin so feel free to insult as you do !

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jun-20 09:50:57

If you mean that I am intolerant towards racism.

Yes! Yes, yes, again. You couldn’t be more correct.

janipat Sun 07-Jun-20 09:44:42

Furret Personally if there’s anyone who turns my stomach it’s Kate and I could perfectly understand if Meghan found her unbearably smug and holier-than-thou.

What a nasty thing to say! I wonder if you'd say that if Catherine was mixed race? Or would it then be a racist statement? I think Harry and Meghan have behaved hypocritically with their environment lectures while taking private jets etc, and I dislike them for it, exactly the same as I dislike Emma Thompson and other celebrities who preach to the masses. I didn't however find anything wrong with the speech to her former school.
It'll be interesting to see if those who condemn comments made against Meghan as vitriol are as aghast at your vitriol against Catherine.

eazybee Sun 07-Jun-20 09:40:00

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jun-20 07:02:10
This post is a perfect example of the intolerance towards differing opinions that feeds all extremist views from Right to Left.

Galaxy Sun 07-Jun-20 09:34:41

I think racism us not all of it. I think some see her as the wrong type of woman, she doesnt do as she is told, I have always liked women like that.

Iam64 Sun 07-Jun-20 09:32:25

Eloethan, thanks for your contributions to this thread. Your comment at 09.22 today is so accurate.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jun-20 09:30:45

eleothan I would also add evil

Eloethan Sun 07-Jun-20 09:22:48

It is not people on the "far left" who have started all these threads vilifying this couple, and in particular Meghan Markle. I think it is already quite clear that this woman is the object of a lot of hatred from some quarters of the population but the constant attacks on the character and motivation of someone who is no longer part of the British scene are unrelenting and obsessional.

Pantglas2 Sun 07-Jun-20 09:20:58

‘Turns my stomach’ - What a very strange phrase to use about someone doesn’t appear to have any enemies, hasn’t gone no contact with all her family apart from one, and seems a loving daughter, wife and mother!

I’m sure I’ve used it about paedophiles and perhaps I should be more understanding of their issues, but Catherine, nope, not seeing the connection.

Galaxy Sun 07-Jun-20 09:12:23

What are you talking about anniebach, I think the Meghan threads are utterly awful, and I am not far left.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jun-20 09:07:02

The hate and bile on this thread is coming from the far left,

Sparklefizz Sun 07-Jun-20 08:39:24

Er .. excuse me. WW2 How dare you issue your general insults.

And then the next post from Furret announces that Kate turns her stomach!!!! Would you believe it?

Furret Sun 07-Jun-20 08:09:01

And some not so underlying either.

Personally if there’s anyone who turns my stomach it’s Kate and I could perfectly understand if Meghan found her unbearably smug and holier-than-thou.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jun-20 07:02:10

What ever the denials that continue on these Markle threads there is an underlying racism to them all. You can deny all you like, but it won’t wash, you are as guilty of racism as those thugs standing with placards or with their knee on someone’s neck.

No self reflection is ever evident, your hate and bile spews out like a fetid piece of meat. For those Christians amongst you the hypocrisy is breathtaking.

It is disgusting and I am ashamed that our generation, who grew up in the full knowlegdge of what “othering” eventually leads to should take part in such discussions.

Summerlove Sat 06-Jun-20 23:11:41

Anniebach

All the family and those who marry into the family get
unkind press .

Unkind press

Not racist press

It’s shocking that you say you cared deeply for a doubt African priest, but yet you can’t see the racist comments made in front of you or in the press

Or, more likely, as I believe you to be an intelligent woman, you choose to ignore them, as it doesn’t fit your narrative.

Not very kind, or Christian you.

Eloethan Sat 06-Jun-20 22:50:03

You take exception to my comment that you "so admire" this woman. You actually said in your post:

"what a intelligent young lady she is telling it as it is for many black lives in America and how disgusting the media has projected it to go along with the black communities using it to their advantage. All I can say about this beautiful young being is WOW."

That sounds very much like admiration to me.

If you think that anyone - even a "persistent offender" - deserves to be forcibly held down, with the full weight of an adult man deliberately applied to his neck by a man kneeling on it for 9 minutes, resulting in his death, then I think I have the right to express my feelings about that opinion.

Anniebach Sat 06-Jun-20 20:42:31

Good point Sparkle

Sparklefizz Sat 06-Jun-20 20:40:19

trisher And there you have the classic white person's response to racism. I don't notice anyone's skin colour.

But, trisher, you don't know what colour I am, do you, so you are jumping to conclusions by picking apart what I said.

Grannyjay Sat 06-Jun-20 20:34:31

Eloethan,. Where in my post did I say admired? When I listened to the 18 minute clip she was angry and I felt she had every right to feel angry that people were hero worshipping a persistent offender. You have your opinion but please, I have mine too. Thank you

Lucca Sat 06-Jun-20 19:40:36

I predicted ten.... Nearly there

trisher Sat 06-Jun-20 19:33:48

And there you have the classic white person's response to racism. I don't notice anyone's skin colour. Well of course you do. Everyone does. But it's not about what you do or don't notice. It's about entrenched attitudes, it's about making remarks that imply black people are from a culture which is violent and unlawful, because of course they couldn't come from respectable areas could they? And if you truly welcomed her then you would respect her opinions and believe her when she made accusations of racism not insist that there isn't any. Because you simply don't know.

Sparklefizz Sat 06-Jun-20 18:50:18

Eloethan But The Atlantic from which you quote is an American journal, not British. Just saying ....

I think you would find that many people here in the UK saw Meghan as a breath of fresh air. We welcomed her. Frankly I never looked at her and saw her as a mixed race young woman or even thought about it. I don't tend to notice anybody's colouring.