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Meghan's Speech

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merlotgran Thu 04-Jun-20 09:23:07

I would have applauded this speech had Meghan been an A list celebrity in her own right and not used her marriage to a member of the RF as a leg up on to the platform she now occupies.

Now she's back in LA where she always wanted to be, she's in the thick of massive racist issues involving violent demonstrations. It seems it was ever thus in the USA.

I couldn't help thinking back to her self pitying comments about racism in the UK. Now we're caught up in the turmoil caused by an act of racist violence in her own country where she fled to 'escape' her unfair treatment over here. hmm

Bridgeit Mon 08-Jun-20 16:27:33

Why does it matter? If the message is the same message.

I have a roof over my head thankfully, does that mean I shouldn’t speak up for or try to help someone who does not.
If MM succeeds in improving or shining a bigger spotlight on issues that need addressing , should we not accept that as an asset.? It seems we must always be looking for the negatives to criticise. We don’t have to like a person, but we can acknowledge that they are attempting to do something positive & good. Nothing else is important really.

Chewbacca Mon 08-Jun-20 10:22:24

Nah, not accepting that Furret. I've read and reread your post and the only alteration that Janipat made was to embolden a part of your post. She neither altered, nor amended, the wording or context of your post and it's still there for everyone to see.
So come on, put your big girl pants on and own your post! No more deflection, hypocrisy or whataboutery please. wink

Lucca Mon 08-Jun-20 10:13:09

Yes Sparkling I think that may just have been said before......

Furret Mon 08-Jun-20 07:27:50

Lucca it was a tad unkind I agree but you have just made my point for me. The fact that I do find Kate irritating and somewhat nauseating, and William too, is nothing compared with the vitriol thrown at poor Meghan.

Her private live is ripped apart, her relationship with her father open to everyone’s opinion, it is intimated she leads Harry around by the nose, she was even slagged off for patting her bump when pregnant and so on and on and on.

Yes, I dare to express an opinion about Kate, without ripping into her private life, her background, her personal relationships, to make a point. Got it Janipat ? See the point I’m making?

Sparkling Mon 08-Jun-20 07:24:41

Everything is about her favourite subject, her, always acting, poor me in her ivory Tower. I can't watch her anymore or Harry.

Furret Mon 08-Jun-20 07:13:25

Chewbacca i would expect nothing less from you. My post was altered but if you enjoy jumping on bandwagons and supporting your buddies in falsehoods so be it. Where is Eglantine?

Lucca Sun 07-Jun-20 17:46:23

Janipat you say I’m quite happy to read vitriol towards Kate. Am I ? How do you know ?
I think there was one post saying something a bit unkind about Kate. One post. And agreed maybe the turn of phrase used was not nice but seriously how does that compare to the hundreds of posts against Meghan?

Summerlove Sun 07-Jun-20 14:49:24

Annie, no response to my answers to your posts?

Is it because you can’t actually argue with them without bringing in random other arguments?

Summerlove Sun 07-Jun-20 14:48:27

I’m certainly far more centrist than “far left”, but apparently disagreeing means I’m far left?

Chewbacca Sun 07-Jun-20 14:13:55

If you are to quote me janipat please do not alter my posts

Just scrolled back to check and janipat does seem to have referenced your posts accurately Furret; I'm assuming that she emboldened "turns my stomach" to draw attention to the hypocrisy of your 2 posts. But other than that, your posts are visible if you want to go back and check?

#awkward

janipat Sun 07-Jun-20 12:45:07

Where have I altered your post? Oh do you want me to say it's my bolded of "turns my stomach" happy to acknowledge that. How do you reconcile your two quotes though Furret unless of course you know Catherine on a personal basis?

Furret Sun 07-Jun-20 12:26:37

If you are to quote me janipat please do not alter my posts.

janipat Sun 07-Jun-20 11:57:47

But apparently quite happy to read vitriol towards Catherine, since no criticism has been forthcoming. Incidentally I have never joined in the "baiting" of Meghan either.

Lucca Sun 07-Jun-20 11:46:22

Old woman. Snap !

But apparently not condoning the Meghan baiting makes us far left republicans

Oldwoman70 Sun 07-Jun-20 11:42:57

Oppsminty so you are saying they shouldn't use social media at all, also how do they avoid being photographed when they are followed by paparazzi wherever they go?

Lucca I am neither left or right and have no strong feelings either way regarding the RF

janipat Sun 07-Jun-20 11:29:38

Furrret I too find it offensive that anyone can exhibit so much venom towards a women they only know through the filter of the media.

Led by the nose like a bull with a ring.

earlier in the thread, followed by

Furret Personally if there’s anyone who turns my stomach it’s Kate and I could perfectly understand if Meghan found her unbearably smug and holier-than-thou.

Where is the sisterhood for Catherine, or doesn't she deserve any support?

trisher Sun 07-Jun-20 10:49:16

I think on this thread a "far left republican" is anyone who calls out racism, supports independent women and questions any aspect of the Royal family.

Oopsminty Sun 07-Jun-20 10:35:58

I think the difference is that Harry and Meghan wanted a private life, *Oldwoman70!

So seeing them putting stuff out on Instagram etc is at odds with what they wanted.

Lucca Sun 07-Jun-20 10:34:12

Old woman. Are you a far left republican then ?!

Oldwoman70 Sun 07-Jun-20 10:31:56

Let's examine the different ways Catherine and Meghan are treated in the press:

Harry and Meghan are photographed delivering food parcels - castigated for seeking to gain publicity and "wasn't it convenient a photographer was there"

Catherine and William are photographed delivering food parcels - how thoughtful and kind of them to take time to help others

Meghan sends a message to her old high school - what a hypocrite and of course she sounds sincere because she is an actress and looking for publicity

Catherine and William announce they talk to people ringing a helpline who are suffering from mental health problems. - see how kind and understanding they are and just like us

As I have said before I have never met any of them and as such I have no idea if they are saints or sinners - my guess a combination of both.

Lucca Sun 07-Jun-20 10:30:20

Who do you mean “far left” ? Just interested.

Eleothan your posts have been spot on, particularly the “obsessional”. I am amazed at how often the same unpleasant comments are churned out. Yes I know I don’t need to read them blah blah.

Galaxy Sun 07-Jun-20 10:15:59

Far left Republicans grin

Anniebach Sun 07-Jun-20 10:14:46

So funny, Kate changed herself to suit the man she set her sights on .

I remember when I married a police officer I was not allowed
to put a poster supporting the party I supported in the window
of our house, not allowed to work in the polling station on
polling day, not allowed to canvass for a political party.

Yes, time to leave this thread, the far left republicans have put
much effort into closing it, let them have their victory no matter how vile a battle they fought.

merlotgran Sun 07-Jun-20 10:11:34

And then, having put an end to any further discussion, they insist the thread should be taken down. hmm

merlotgran Sun 07-Jun-20 10:10:31

What does that say about GN?

It says that sadly some threads are just not worth starting any more. They are soon taken over by posters hell bent on destroying any form of discussion that they disagree with. It's their way or the highway.

The same thing is happening on the George Floyd protests thread.