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Sex party organiser in Number 10

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growstuff Tue 16-Jun-20 18:52:48

My occasional glance at the Daily Mail is always good for a laugh, but this is beyond a joke:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8107533/Former-sex-party-boss-lands-job-Downing-Street-Government-strategist-researcher.html

His wife, Munira Mirza, is the head of the Number 10 Policy Unit, was a former member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and was one of Johnson's deputies when he was Mayor of London. She's been given the job of heading up the latest commission on racism, even though she has written many times that she doesn't believe institutional racism exists in the UK.

WTF is going on? First we had Cummings' attempt to appoint a supporter of eugenics. Now a swingers' party organiser and husband of a former communist.

varian Thu 18-Jun-20 22:17:03

Another sleazy Tory MP

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-53091934

varian Thu 18-Jun-20 08:33:04

The Tory party has never had any scruples about its connections with sleazy characters such as pornographer and Tory party donor Richard Desmond, who has moved on from being proprietor of the Express to the more lucrative business of property development


sleazey

janeainsworth Wed 17-Jun-20 20:48:41

I think the Profumo scandal was rather different, Iam. The Cold War was still raging & for a government minister to have compromised national security in the way that he did, was almost treasonable at that time.
That’s not to say that the behaviour of Johnson & Cummings isn’t reprehensible.
It is, but internal corruption is different from what Profumo did. He made the gravest of mistakes, rather than deliberately using high political office for his own ends.

Iam64 Wed 17-Jun-20 19:54:00

growstuff, I didn't know about the link between Smith, a police raid of someone he's connected with and images of children being sexually abused.
I suppose a gang of grannies could be accused of being narrow minded (though with most of this gang that seems highly improbable) but sexual abuse of children, surely everyone draws the line there.
We need a stable government currently more than at any time I can recall. We don't have that. The shady dealings summarised here make the Profumo scandal look like not much.

MaizieD Wed 17-Jun-20 19:41:58

You Gov polling earlier this week shows Starmer neck and neck with Johnson in the preferred PM stakes

twitter.com/britainelects/status/1271852621394063371

Various polls in past few days show that the tory lead over Labour has dwindled to between 3 and 5 points.

twitter.com/britainelects

MissAdventure Wed 17-Jun-20 19:39:09

Have to say I agree with every word, which surprises me, because I never used to think that way.

growstuff Wed 17-Jun-20 19:26:42

Dinahmo I didn't want to go there because I have no evidence at all. However, given Johnson's past there is, I'm sure, speculation.

What is known is that Smith is linked with somebody whose house was raided by police and child pornography was found. Who knows how many "favours" are being done because there is seedy blackmail material available?

Given everything else which is going on in the inner circles of government - allegations of bullying, silencing scientists, nepotism, handouts to mates, appointment of a former communist to a key government role, overlooking of transgressions by some, sacking civil servants and advisers, stopping journalists from attending meetings, proroguing Parliament, not publishing the Russia Report, denying child poverty and racism, blatant lying etc etc etc - it's just another sign that this government isn't fit for purpose.

Anybody who has ever read Dominic Cummings' blog would know that this is exactly what he's been aiming to create. All existing values are being destroyed. Goodness knows where it will end. It's quite obvious that the government doesn't care one jot about you, me or Jo Bloggs down the road or behind the red wall. They can behave as outrageously as they want because they have such a huge majority.

In the current situation, I want a government I can trust to make the right decisions but what we've got is a bunch of amoral, dishonest charlatans and nodding lapdogs, who will say anything to further their careers.

Dinahmo Wed 17-Jun-20 19:09:38

Growstuff What's the betting that Johnson went to some of those parties? Times are very different to the Profumo affair when he resigned because he was sleeping with Christine Keeler who was also sleeping with a Russian spy.

Back then politicians resigned for misdeeds. Unlike today when the only ones to resign or stand down at a GE are the ones who can't take the lies and cronyism anymore.

Callistemon Wed 17-Jun-20 15:44:05

Yes, Twas!

Lucca Wed 17-Jun-20 15:10:29

My mother would say “‘Twas ever thus” Callistemon

MaizieD Wed 17-Jun-20 15:10:26

I'm sorry if nobody sees it all as sleazy and sordid, but I do.

It's just another addition to the miasma of corruption that wafts around our government.

Callistemon Wed 17-Jun-20 15:06:58

Yes, I dislike the nepotism and do wonder what is on their hidden agenda.

It was the sex parties themselves that seemed to be causing shock and horror.

Of course, arranging such activities for high profile figures could leave them wide open to blackmail in the future.
It is interesting quite how stupid supposedly educated and intelligent people can be when their libido rules over their common sense.

growstuff Wed 17-Jun-20 14:01:55

Callistemon By no means am I a traditional Tory female do-gooder, but I would imagine that there are some people like that who can see the hypocrisy. To be honest, I don't know what they think, although I personally expect the leaders of my country to uphold certain moral standards. Smith and his wife, Munira Mirza, and Cummings have written many times about how they want to undermine traditional values. I sometimes think the country could do with a bit of a shake up about some issues, but I seriously doubt whether most Conservative voters thought they were voting for the kind of shake up which is being planned by this bunch.

My feeling is that I'm not really bothered how people conduct their sex lives as long as it's consensual.

However, I am extremely concerned about this appointment. My guess is that Cummings and Johnson have allowed information to be published because they know they can get away with almost anything at the moment. The exception was that Sabisky bloke (the one who believed in eugenics) and free school meals. Unless they're challenged, they'll just do what they want.

In this case, it seems that there's a huge security risk. He has access to private information within the cabinet office. It's also not unreasonable to assume that he knows quite a bit of dirt about some very influential people. He was originally hired by David Cameron to dig dirt on political opponents. There is potential for all sorts of bribery and blackmail.

I'm also concerned about the nepotism. His wife has just been handed the job of organising a new commission on racism, despite having written in the past that she doesn't believe that racism in the UK exists. She, like so many Cummings allies, is obsessed by data, which I find worrying. She worked for Johnson for 8 years when he was mayor of London, so he must know about her husband's past.

Over the last few months, many billions of pounds in contracts have been handed to allies of Cummings without going out to tender. Cummings has been responsible for sacking neutral civil servants and installing his own nodding lap dogs and supporters, such as Dougie Smith.

They are accountable to nobody, so they get away with it.

I'm sorry if nobody sees it all as sleazy and sordid, but I do.

Lucca Wed 17-Jun-20 13:12:24

Lucca

Irritate? No. But I’d be interested to know your views on this latest appointment

Urmstongran?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 17-Jun-20 12:59:31

janeainsworth

twitter.com/docrussjackson/status/1272827938610778114?s=21
Here’s a link to a thread about it all on Twitter if anyone’s interested.

Thank you

janeainsworth Wed 17-Jun-20 12:01:08

twitter.com/docrussjackson/status/1272827938610778114?s=21
Here’s a link to a thread about it all on Twitter if anyone’s interested.

janeainsworth Wed 17-Jun-20 11:53:43

I don’t think the question of appropriate political appointments is necessarily a party political one, Calli.
It’s more a question of values.
The same values can be shared across the political spectrum & are a reflection of someone’s personal integrity rather than their political beliefs.

Callistemon Wed 17-Jun-20 11:04:17

This thread is quite confusing as I would have thought that the people getting most hot under the collar about Dougie Smith would be those whom some posters refer to as 'traditional Tory female do-gooders in twin sets and pearls'.

???

MaizieD Wed 17-Jun-20 11:01:37

Here's a link to a wikkipedia page about him

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1280492-Sex-party-organiser-in-Number-10?pg=2

I don't think it's been updated particularly recently but it looks as though the 'Fever Parties' page it 'was' linked to has been removed.

growstuff Wed 17-Jun-20 11:00:02

Sorry, don't know how to do links to Twitter threads. He's no longer trending but just put his name into the search facility.

Here's a link to an article in yesterday's Mirror:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-hands-number-10-21683722

GrannyGravy13 Wed 17-Jun-20 10:25:02

Re OP trending on twitter have been unable to find Dougie Smith have you got a link please?

Furret Wed 17-Jun-20 10:19:41

Not irritated. I’ve learned to ignore the very few people in come into contact with in RL with such views.

Lucca Wed 17-Jun-20 09:53:40

Irritate? No. But I’d be interested to know your views on this latest appointment

Urmstongran Wed 17-Jun-20 09:13:01

It must irritate the hell out of most of you on here to know there’s a lot like me ‘out there’ away from these echo chambers! And we all have a vote.

Lucca Wed 17-Jun-20 09:10:29

Luckygirl. Hear hear.
The man who made up the “hour of exercise” rule on the spot on the Andrew marr show.