Patriotic duty?
Perhaps they should lead by example and not have one rule for them and another for us
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SubscribeThe govt (aka B Johnson & Cummings) want us to go out to pubs and celebrate the end of "our long national hibernation" . It's our "patriotic duty".
2 pint glasses (or possibly 1 litre) are to be introduced so that trips to the bar won't be quite so frequent. Are the loos going to open? How can people keep 1 metre apart in confined spaces, especially the mens' loos. But they can pee in the bushes. Imagine walking the dog past a pub garden in the morning.
I suspect BJ and DC think that if they keep providing little treats, we'll soon forget what has happened. The fact is, 65,700 people have died and they were friends, family, neighbours and colleagues and they will be missed.
This inept government are solely responsible for this. No doubt some of you will point to silly people not obeying the rules, which weren't particularly clear in the first place.
However, the govt are the ones setting the agenda and who are responsible for telling the various agencies what to do and to ensure that they have the means to do this. The govt have fallen short in many respects. their failures have been listed elsewhere on this site so I don't need to repeat them.
Some people will say that many of those who died had underlying health conditions. But most people with long term illnesses take regular medication which controls their disease. A study back in April (from Glasgow University) said that most people who died of covid could have had another 10 years or so life left to them.
The govt have an 80 seat majority so the opposition can do little. Perhaps it's time to contact your local MP to let you views be heard. I'm a Labour supporter and there's not much that those of us on the left can do. But those of you with decent Tory MPs can do something so that when Johnson loses interest, or is kicked out, we can have an honourable PM - plus the benefit of losing DC and with a bit of luck, most of the Cabinet.
Patriotic duty?
Perhaps they should lead by example and not have one rule for them and another for us
I dread the opening of the pubs too Trisher. Even Andy Capp would be intimidated.
Although thinking about it, there's only one pub near where we live. Several have already closed down, or sold for conversion to other use.
I believe some pubs are not opening on Saturday because they know it will be chaos. They are waiting for a midweek evening to try out the social distancing measures. Boris & Cummings will either be dining in some posh resteraunt or quaffing wine (probably French) at home.
He continuously overpromises and underdelivers. That hasn't changed.
Boris certainly comes out with good phrases, celebrate the end of our long national hibernation "It's our patriotic duty. So everyone is supposed to get down to the pub on Saturday night because that is what he is telling us to do. The same as he told everyone to go out and enjoy the sunshine maybe go to the beach. We all saw what happened at the beaches without any social distancing. It is not my patriotic duty to get to the pub on 4th July and I will not be going. I expect we will see scenes on our T. V. screens by Sunday morning of anti-social behaviour which will then be described as the "minority" that wanted to ruin things.
I still feel confusion as the only places I see any signs we still are living in coronavirus times are the local shops and large supermarkets who still have security on the doors and keep orderly queues formed and we have to follow the arrows around the shopping area although they may as well give up as everywhere else people do as they like.
Look at Leicester they knew 11 days ago that there was a big spike in rising numbers but still waited and waited until they finally took action. The Mayor is still vexed about it as he said there was nothing wrong in Leicester.
These are the sort of leaders that are supposedly taking charge of this pandemic and as the health organisers and many scientists still warn us we are still living with the timebomb of coronavirus. God help us.
Whitewavemark2
I would love to be as patriotic as Patel and her husband.
Her husband is claim £25000 a year from us as he reckons he runs Patel’s private office. He also has a full time job and is a local councillor. No doubt he claims various expenses from that little number as well.
Nice work if you can get it.
Nepotism is rife in Westminster, with many wives being given these jobs ( whether they actually do the jobs or not) also sons and daughters.They all do it! Singling out Patel is pointless until they change the rules on this.I think they should.
Which is why we are in the state we're in
Janpt - what about Corbyn and his friends? What have they got do do with this?
In case you're not up to date with current affairs, they are out of it. They and their ilk may grumble a lot about their sweetheart having been chucked out of the Shadow Cabinet recently but Corbyn is no longer Leader of the Opposition and not even in the Shadow Cabinet.
It's Cummings and Johnson (in that order) who are in charge now.
I would love to be as patriotic as Patel and her husband.
Her husband is claim £25000 a year from us as he reckons he runs Patel’s private office. He also has a full time job and is a local councillor. No doubt he claims various expenses from that little number as well.
Nice work if you can get it.
growstuff What about Corbyn and the rest of the Marxist morons ?
The rot set in when Cummings broke the lockdown. This government haven't been clear on anything. They had the arrogance not to follow the strict lockdown rules that Italy and France followed and look where we are today. Patriotic duty! Don't make me laugh!
Janpt
Well said Ladymuck. All the Labour party ever do is blame the government for everything. Why not blame the morons seen on Bournemouth beach for increasing the risk of spreading the virus ?
Why not blame the moron who encouraged them to go? The one who told the MP for Brighton and Hove to have some guts and support people enjoying themselves? The one who told people to take it on the chin and boasted that he'd been shaking hands with infected people? The moron who supported his advisor when he broke the rules?
Well said Ladymuck. All the Labour party ever do is blame the government for everything. Why not blame the morons seen on Bournemouth beach for increasing the risk of spreading the virus ?
Dinahmo
Summerlove That's what gets me. Why can't those whose team won see what is wrong? So many wrongdoings and yet they just accept it.
Granite mountains.
What would you say to Mogg if you were his priest and he came to confession?
Someone has to tell him the truth surely?
Is his so-called Catholic Faith just another lie?
Completely missed it I think kalu
Ah yes, Whitewave yet he still fervently follows his faith. Blessed are the poor? Or did he miss that section?
I wish I could be as patriotic as Mogg.
Jacob Rees-Mogg’s Company Accounts show c£103M profit over last 5 years, but paid ZERO UK corporation tax as ultimate ownership in Cayman Islands.
No contribution for schools, hospitals, roads, defence, public services, welfare etc. No wonder he is keen to avoid new EU tax laws.
Summerlove That's what gets me. Why can't those whose team won see what is wrong? So many wrongdoings and yet they just accept it.
vegansrock
Even before our government decided to bother to lockdown, people could see what was happening and many started to work from home, stocking up supplies, avoiding crowds etc. In the the first few weeks the stay home message was largely observed - there was hardly any traffic and city streets were empty. However it was the government’s mixed messages starting with the defence of Cummings where many people gave up. The government are responsible, its their job to keep the country safe. Lack of ppe, sending sick people back to care homes, not bothering to make face coverings compulsory, the test n trace fiasco, lack of clear guidance, has all contributed to the appalling high death toll.
Don’t try to logic it out.
Some people refuse to criticise as their team won and can do no wrong
Grany the testing thing totally passed me by. I don’t understand why they voted that way. Was it because the tests are imperfect perhaps?
I know that Ocado delivery drivers are tested weekly...
Even before our government decided to bother to lockdown, people could see what was happening and many started to work from home, stocking up supplies, avoiding crowds etc. In the the first few weeks the stay home message was largely observed - there was hardly any traffic and city streets were empty. However it was the government’s mixed messages starting with the defence of Cummings where many people gave up. The government are responsible, its their job to keep the country safe. Lack of ppe, sending sick people back to care homes, not bothering to make face coverings compulsory, the test n trace fiasco, lack of clear guidance, has all contributed to the appalling high death toll.
Personally, I'd rather hang for quite a few years. The government's handling of the situation has been a disgrace. There have been unnecessary deaths and there will be more to come. The country needs leadership, not a narcissistic clown.
Well said, ladymuck. As sure as houses is houses, we will all die sometime but I expect that will Boris or Brexit's fault too.
ladymuck
What utter nonsense to blame the government for what is happening. This is a typical example of people not taking responsibility for themselves. I'm amazed you haven't blamed Brexit!
Be fair. How many governments have had to deal with a pandemic such as this? Of course mistakes have been made and I'm sure lessons will be learned, should it happen again (which I'm sure it will).
We know the risks and how to lessen our chances of catching the virus. They should let us take responsibility for our own safety, but too many people can't think for themselves and need someone to hold their hand.
I think perhaps you've misunderstood me. I.m not blaming the govt for people getting pissed. nor for the people crowding on to the beaches today. What I am blaming them for is the way in which they've handled the crisis. At the height of the crisis the vast majority were behaving sensibly and the people working on the front line and those in care homes who died are not to blame for getting the virus.
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