This inept government want us to do our patriotic duty.

I shall own up straight away I come from a family of Pub Owners, we have close family friends who are still pub/restaurant owners. To get a Covid-19 safety certificate which enables an establishment to open is not easy.

Pub culture will be distinctly different for the foreseeable future.

RCN director Susan Masters said "testing of health and care workers and the people they are caring for has to be a priority".

Some 331 Conservative MPs opposed a motion that would have led to weekly testing of NHS workers and care staff last night.

As we have seen on the beaches and BLM social distancing is dead when pubs open it will be the same.

Patriotic duty - another of BJs Stupid catch phrases. “Patriotism, the last refuge of a scoundrell” fits quite well.

What utter nonsense to blame the government for what is happening. This is a typical example of people not taking responsibility for themselves. I'm amazed you haven't blamed Brexit!
Be fair. How many governments have had to deal with a pandemic such as this? Of course mistakes have been made and I'm sure lessons will be learned, should it happen again (which I'm sure it will).
We know the risks and how to lessen our chances of catching the virus. They should let us take responsibility for our own safety, but too many people can't think for themselves and need someone to hold their hand.

Every single government in the world has had to deal with the pandemic.

And many ( if not most) have done so far better than ours ( low bar however)

One of the responsibilities of governments is to protect us from the bad behaviour of others - a whole raft of legislation exists for that purpose. If Governments abdicate that responsibility, who then protects the innocent, the well behaved, the vulnerable?

ladymuck

What utter nonsense to blame the government for what is happening. This is a typical example of people not taking responsibility for themselves. I'm amazed you haven't blamed Brexit!
Be fair. How many governments have had to deal with a pandemic such as this? Of course mistakes have been made and I'm sure lessons will be learned, should it happen again (which I'm sure it will).
We know the risks and how to lessen our chances of catching the virus. They should let us take responsibility for our own safety, but too many people can't think for themselves and need someone to hold their hand.

I think perhaps you've misunderstood me. I.m not blaming the govt for people getting pissed. nor for the people crowding on to the beaches today. What I am blaming them for is the way in which they've handled the crisis. At the height of the crisis the vast majority were behaving sensibly and the people working on the front line and those in care homes who died are not to blame for getting the virus.

Well said, ladymuck. As sure as houses is houses, we will all die sometime but I expect that will Boris or Brexit's fault too.

Personally, I'd rather hang for quite a few years. The government's handling of the situation has been a disgrace. There have been unnecessary deaths and there will be more to come. The country needs leadership, not a narcissistic clown.

Even before our government decided to bother to lockdown, people could see what was happening and many started to work from home, stocking up supplies, avoiding crowds etc. In the the first few weeks the stay home message was largely observed - there was hardly any traffic and city streets were empty. However it was the government’s mixed messages starting with the defence of Cummings where many people gave up. The government are responsible, its their job to keep the country safe. Lack of ppe, sending sick people back to care homes, not bothering to make face coverings compulsory, the test n trace fiasco, lack of clear guidance, has all contributed to the appalling high death toll.

Grany the testing thing totally passed me by. I don’t understand why they voted that way. Was it because the tests are imperfect perhaps?
I know that Ocado delivery drivers are tested weekly...

vegansrock

Even before our government decided to bother to lockdown, people could see what was happening and many started to work from home, stocking up supplies, avoiding crowds etc. In the the first few weeks the stay home message was largely observed - there was hardly any traffic and city streets were empty. However it was the government’s mixed messages starting with the defence of Cummings where many people gave up. The government are responsible, its their job to keep the country safe. Lack of ppe, sending sick people back to care homes, not bothering to make face coverings compulsory, the test n trace fiasco, lack of clear guidance, has all contributed to the appalling high death toll.

Don’t try to logic it out.

Some people refuse to criticise as their team won and can do no wrong

Summerlove That's what gets me. Why can't those whose team won see what is wrong? So many wrongdoings and yet they just accept it.

I wish I could be as patriotic as Mogg.

Jacob Rees-Mogg’s Company Accounts show c£103M profit over last 5 years, but paid ZERO UK corporation tax as ultimate ownership in Cayman Islands.
No contribution for schools, hospitals, roads, defence, public services, welfare etc. No wonder he is keen to avoid new EU tax laws.

Ah yes, Whitewave yet he still fervently follows his faith. Blessed are the poor? Or did he miss that section?

Completely missed it I think kalu

What would you say to Mogg if you were his priest and he came to confession?

Someone has to tell him the truth surely?

Is his so-called Catholic Faith just another lie?

Dinahmo

Summerlove That's what gets me. Why can't those whose team won see what is wrong? So many wrongdoings and yet they just accept it.

Granite mountains.

Well said Ladymuck. All the Labour party ever do is blame the government for everything. Why not blame the morons seen on Bournemouth beach for increasing the risk of spreading the virus ?

Janpt

Well said Ladymuck. All the Labour party ever do is blame the government for everything. Why not blame the morons seen on Bournemouth beach for increasing the risk of spreading the virus ?

Why not blame the moron who encouraged them to go? The one who told the MP for Brighton and Hove to have some guts and support people enjoying themselves? The one who told people to take it on the chin and boasted that he'd been shaking hands with infected people? The moron who supported his advisor when he broke the rules?

The rot set in when Cummings broke the lockdown. This government haven't been clear on anything. They had the arrogance not to follow the strict lockdown rules that Italy and France followed and look where we are today. Patriotic duty! Don't make me laugh!

growstuff What about Corbyn and the rest of the Marxist morons ?

I would love to be as patriotic as Patel and her husband.

Her husband is claim £25000 a year from us as he reckons he runs Patel’s private office. He also has a full time job and is a local councillor. No doubt he claims various expenses from that little number as well.

Nice work if you can get it.