Anyone live in Leicester? The lockdown there has been extended.

Still no testing on entry, not even a very simple temperature gun and certainly no quarantine. No enforcement at all at airports.

You are racist.

Timetogo.
"We went through Leicester and it is mostly Asians living there"

The two biggest ethnic groups of Leicester

White British 45%
Indian origin 28%

The remainder a rich mix of ethnicity and origin.

That's a real fact.

This will occur in other places too. In England the policy seems to be suppression rather than the Scottish policy of elimination. We in Scotland are told in the briefing everyday to remain cautious and to follow FACTS which stands for Facecoverings, Avoid crowds, clean hands, two metres, and self isolate if displaying symptoms etc. The message is much more serious and we seem to be doing well. I certainly prefer the approach to the jokey 'whack a mole' and go out on 4th July so it is busy! Who in their right mind thought opening things on a Saturday was sensible!! There will be a lot more lockdowns in the weeks following the 'pubs opening' in England.

Illte

The Pakistani population of Leicester is just over 2%. Just thought you might like to know.

It makes no difference.
If you had gone overseas to visit family for a short trip then got stuck for months because you didn't get on to one of the charter flights home again, wouldn't you be desperate to get back home again as soon as flights started up again which they started to do at the end of May?
Especially as COVID19 is not covered by travel insurance?

I know I would, even though I'd be very apprehensive about the flight.

That's why we should have been stricter about testing people who arrived and quarantine.

Children can be asymptomatic but take Covid home to their multigenerational households.

These are often the families which have a high incidence of diabetes and that puts a strain on health services.

Poorly ventilated garment factories, of which there are many in Leicester, are another risk factor. A lot of these have been running throughout lockdown.

Logistically to put a cordon around Leicester to prevent all movement in and out would prove to be impossible unless the armed forces were to be deployed.

I would not have a problem with this, but I guess that I am in the minority?

It's not a second wave, it's an extension of the first, according to WHO

Spot on JenniferEccles.
We went through Leicester a year or so ago and it was mainly asians living there.

Walsall will be next.
And before i get accused of being racist by some,let me tell you that is far from the truth as i am stating a fact.

This morning someone blamed non ventilated factories, plus it is a multi ethnicity city and we know BAME communities suffer more. We live in Derbyshire an adjoining County so hope they don’t rush to all our shops and pubs. Not that I am going to either anytime soon.

I think this is a wake-up call for everybody. It just shows how fragile this whole situation is, and the virus will not be tamed until there is a vaccination available to everybody, worldwide.

We all have a part to play, and we all have to be careful.

Grandad1943

I believe I have read that all schools in Leicester are now closed. That will be much to the delight of the teaching profession in that city no doubt, as they can go back to sitting on their backsides again.

That is if they have ever got off of them in the last four months.

See you later. ???

Deeply unpleasant. At some point GD1943, I hope someone attacks your integrity and work ethic in the way you malign teachers.

I'm very glad I don't teach your grandchildren, given the arrogant, aggressive and massively over entitled attitude you no doubt pass down to them. Perhaps you should shell-out for private education, given the total lack of faith you have in state educators.

Don't rise to it growstuff he is just looking for a reaction.

I think, Grandad1943 that's a slight on all those teachers who have been working twice as hard to teach online, provide worksheets, phone families, be supportive and keep schools running for keywokers and others.

My husband and daughter-in-law have both been teaching online so I can see with my own eyes what this is like. It is exhausting and draining.

I think it's in poor taste to tar everyone with the same brush.

Jabberwok- I wasn't looking for an excuse.
Like most I'd adhered to the guidelines and respected what Chris Whitty et al were telling us to do. I was genuinely gobsmacked that Cummings wasn't sacked. It made me think differently about the government which, up till then, I'd felt OK about. Cummings is a far far more significant figure than those others you mentioned.
The psychological effect of the Cummings affair resounded in households throughout the country whether Tories like it or not.

Grandad1943

I believe I have read that all schools in Leicester are now closed. That will be much to the delight of the teaching profession in that city no doubt, as they can go back to sitting on their backsides again.

That is if they have ever got off of them in the last four months.

See you later. ???

Ah! You mean they can go back to preparing and teaching lessons online. You really do have a problem with teachers, don't you, Grandad? Was your own education particularly traumatic or something?

BTW Did you know that there are just less than 600,000 members of the main teaching unions? In addition, there are 100s of thousands of non-teaching staff working in schools in Unison, GMB and Unite? That means that over 10% of union members in the country work in schools. If you really want to support the union movement, it's maybe not such a good idea to keep teacher bashing (especially as you haven't a clue what you're talking about).

Time to pop off to the office, perhaps?

Just asking. For residents whose first language is not English - have government recommendations been translated and published so everybody knows current rules etc.

Because growstuff, the government likes to confuse us all by not making any sense...
Presumably they don't want to give clear messages in case we follow them.

Yours, angry and frustrated
?

Jabberwok

Cummings broke lockdown so that means I can?!!! FGS so did S.Kinnock, I.Blackford, not to mention a few more + dear old Barry Gardiner who went on a protest march! Why aren't these other people being used as an example for bad behaviour? or, provided you are left wing, apart from Cummings, the others don't count or matter?! Other than Barry, none of the above threatened one other person, whereas people recklessly breaking lockdown most certainly do! But, Cummings did, (forget the others) without compromising anyone, (penalty? a fine if appropriate, not losing your job,) which means I can, and deliberately potentially spread the virus, under the cover of ' Cummings did it'! I know we've turned into a pathetic nanny nation that can't think for themselves and always have to find someone to blame, but even bearing that in mind, this attitude in this instance is plain ridiculous, any excuse is better than none!!

Possibly because Kinnock, Blackford and Gardiner didn't have a major hand in drawing up the "rules".

What Cummings did was totally inexcusable and the attempted cover up by his wife was despicable.

kittylester

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-need-to-solve-ethnic-puzzle-of-covid-19-gdxw93q0j

In the Times too for those of you who dont like the Mail.

A local doctor also cited the familial living arrangements and the prevalence of diabetes.

Diabetes is a serious risk factor for people becoming seriously ill, probably because we now know that Covid-19 affects the vascular system, which is already damaged in diabetics.

However, it doesn't mean that diabetics are more likely to be infected in the first place. It just means they're more likely to end up in hospital.

A high prevalence of diabetics will affect death rates, but not infection rates.

Cummings broke lockdown so that means I can?!!! FGS so did S.Kinnock, I.Blackford, not to mention a few more + dear old Barry Gardiner who went on a protest march! Why aren't these other people being used as an example for bad behaviour? or, provided you are left wing, apart from Cummings, the others don't count or matter?! Other than Barry, none of the above threatened one other person, whereas people recklessly breaking lockdown most certainly do! But, Cummings did, (forget the others) without compromising anyone, (penalty? a fine if appropriate, not losing your job,) which means I can, and deliberately potentially spread the virus, under the cover of ' Cummings did it'! I know we've turned into a pathetic nanny nation that can't think for themselves and always have to find someone to blame, but even bearing that in mind, this attitude in this instance is plain ridiculous, any excuse is better than none!!

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Maybe it is related to more inter-generational households in Leicester?

One of the Local Councillors has been on TV saying that he thought it was to do with the language barrier in certain areas were the virus is more prevalent (he was an Asian so I assume he knew what he was saying)

I'm still trying to get my head round this gem from Matt Hancock on BBC Breakfast:

"We have sent in a lot of extra testing into Leicester over the last 10 days or so and one of the things we have found is that there are under-18s who have tested positive and therefore, because children can transmit the disease - even though they are highly unlikely to get ill from the disease - we think the safest thing to do is close the schools.
The reason I said what I did last night about Leicester is that it is an unusually high incidence in children in Leicester.
…
Right across the country - including in Leicester - it is safe for your child to go to school and in the rest of the country, where the number of cases is so much lower, then it is safe for the community.
That is why we have taken the decisions that we have on schools - it’s to protect against the transmission in Leicester."

So, if it's safe for your child to go to school - even in Leicester - why have schools been shut to protect against transmission?

I agree Iam64- the Cummings affair blew a hole in the government's credibility. I doubt they realise how insidious the effect has been of not sacking him at once.