Up to 3 million Hong Kong residents are to be offered to settle in the UK (EDITED BY HQ)

Ellenvannin - there are thousands of empty flats in the City of London - mostly owned by foreign investors who never come to them, just were buying them ready for prices to rise so they could sell them on. About time they were used.

eloethan

I’m not criticising the government for making a rare correct decision, but I am contrasting Johnson with his attitude during the leave campaign.

The irony that it should be announced on the day of the immigration bill is astounding also.

We must be the only country in history who has voted for less rights.

We have chosen to remove our rights and deny ourselves opportunities, but the Chinese we are happy to retain those rights.

Crazy.

Welbeck, slip of the keyboard using the word colony. I didn’t preview. Then I thought no one would notice! Should have known better!
You have a point about the way we refer to HK. To so many of us it it seems we still have so many links.

Thank you Eloethan.Succintly put.

I do see your point Whitewave but surely this is a very different scenario.

As much as I dislike Johnson and think he is inept, I really don't think I can criticise him or the Conservative party for this. The actions of the Chinese government in threatening to imprison people for long periods just for holding up placards and demonstrating are quite unacceptable and I think the British government does have a duty to uphold the promises that were made to the people in Hong Kong.

If you think about it, it can't be easy for this government to make such a commitment because it won't suit a lot of their supporters.

Although I voted to remain, I don't think the issue of EU immigrants and potential Hong Kong immigrants are the same. People coming to work here from the EU did so for a variety of reasons but not because if they disagreed with the government in their own country they could be imprisoned for many years.

I expect many will want to move to Australia now Basic Law looks as if it will be undermined much earlier than agreed.
Canada and Taiwan would also be preferred destinations.

Hong Kong is not a colony. that's the point.
someone said the older people may prefer to remain in the colony.
that's what the chinese govt accuses us of; forgetting that HK is no longer a colony.

MaizieD is in pouncing mood tonight. Only the chosen few are welcome to post on the News and Politics threads.

I just wondered how Peardrop managed to miss all those anti immigrant comments from Leavers over the past 4 years.

MaizieD

What reasonable debate would that be? Just as a matter of interest?

Is that the one where everyone throws out a few mantras and everyone else agrees with them. Then shout 'bully' at anyone who disagrees?

You expressed that very well. I’ve noticed a tendency of some posters of right leaning views to just make a statement of opinion or a Boris type slogan, not back it up and as you say then do the “ I for one am tired of the lefty posters dominating the political threads”. I honestly can say that as far as I can see it’s pretty even!!

^That’s because you only see what you want to see in posts by those who wanted to leave the EU.
I expect there are many people who voted to remain and don’t mind Europeans coming here but don’t like Africans or Asians coming here to settle perhaps.Just a thought.^

Pitiful, lemon, pitiful.

I repeat I am happy to welcome all comers, all colours and creeds if they contribute to society or are vulnerable in their own country. I am proud of our diverse and multi-cultural Britain. I love my country.
I voted to leave the EU because I do not want to be part of a trading bloc, I do not want to be governed by faceless bureaucrats in a one size fits all way.
I vote Conservative because I believe in aspiration, in reward for effort and I feel a strong economy is necessary for growth for all. I was enthused by Boris's vision of a greater spend on infrastructure, a levelling up across the country and a more positive British 'can do' attitude.
So Maizie et al now you know. Feel free to fire on all cylinders. Please refrain from Guardian quotes, I would prefer hard copy...........................just in case there's a shortage of loo paper following further panic buying due to covid spikes.

Watermeadow
You won't see many ( if any) Chinese people in the dole queue. It's not their way.

Peardrop50

Waiting to find out Lemongrove, quaking in my boots.

Somehow.....I don’t think so ?

MaizieD

The thing is, Ug, I've been posting on here, on the News & Politics forum pretty continually for the past 4 years and this is the very first thread in all that time about a possible influx of immigrants where the Leavers have actually approved of them coming.

"I'm not racist, but the UK is too full already" is a very common comment usually.

I find this very, very strange.

That’s because you only see what you want to see in posts by those who wanted to leave the EU.
I expect there are many people who voted to remain and don’t mind Europeans coming here but don’t like Africans or Asians coming here to settle perhaps.Just a thought.

MaizieD is in pouncing mood tonight. Only the chosen few are welcome to post on the News and Politics threads.

Waiting to find out Lemongrove, quaking in my boots.

What does it matter how long Peardrop has been on GN ??

The thing is, Ug, I've been posting on here, on the News & Politics forum pretty continually for the past 4 years and this is the very first thread in all that time about a possible influx of immigrants where the Leavers have actually approved of them coming.

"I'm not racist, but the UK is too full already" is a very common comment usually.

I find this very, very strange.

There’s a lot of constant anger by some posters.....it must be exhausting to keep it up for years.

What reasonable debate would that be? Just as a matter of interest?

Is that the one where everyone throws out a few mantras and everyone else agrees with them. Then shout 'bully' at anyone who disagrees?

Hear, hear Peardrop! Well said.
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Have you been posting on Gnet for very long, Peardrop?

A few years off and on, more since lockdown because I am not out and about.
I do enjoy the political threads but am getting a bit bored with the same few Guardianistas hijacking most threads and quashing reasonable debate with bullying behaviour.

Is that a clue?
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Have you been posting on Gnet for very long, Peardrop?

PamelaJ1 - well said.

Varian Wed 01-Jul-20 19:05:53
Those of us who voted remain tended to be more tolerant, outgoing, inclusive, internationalist and welcoming to immigrants.

Your implication is that I am less tolerant, less outgoing, not inclusive, not internationalist and not welcoming to immigrants based purely on the fact that I voted to leave the EU. This could not be further from the truth and I resent the implication.

MaizieD I know who the Brexit supporters are, janeainsworth and some are posting on this thread saying that the Hong Kongers would be welcome. They're the ones who are astounding me that, and the denial of being anti immigration.

Again unfounded accusations based on voting in a different way to you.
and the fact that your gast is flabbered could be because you haven't read the thread properly, I personally stated that 'people who contribute to our society or the vulnerable escaping theirs are welcome' and most reasonable posters agreed. So unflabber your gast dear and calm down.