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Up to 3 million Hong Kong residents are to be offered to settle in the UK (EDITED BY HQ)

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Jul-20 13:56:10

That’s today’s headline, or would be if I was a leave campaigner and it was May 2016.

There would be huge posters up showing queues of people into the far distance, with Johnson saying the hoards are coming.

Brexiters complained about how our schools and hospitals would be full of these incomers.

I await the same arguments from these people.

watermeadow Wed 01-Jul-20 20:33:28

Poor souls. Will they be joining our 3 million unemployed?

Iam64 Wed 01-Jul-20 20:31:40

Gagajo - I haven't seen any negative comments here about people from Hong Kong. Your particular group of friends may be 'opinionated' with negative views of British people but that doesnt make the the majority.
Like everyone else, I'm received that the government has made it clear that people who wish to move to the Uk from HK are welcome to do so.

silverlining48 Wed 01-Jul-20 20:22:20

It is never an easy decision and a sacrifice to leave one’s country, to leave friends, family and home behind. No one does it easily, unless there is little choice. So yes, personally I would welcome the poor as well because they can and do contribute a great deal as well.
I know a number of Syrian refugees and they, like us, just seek a peaceful, safe life for themselves and their families, with the freedoms we enjoy, but they know they will always remain foreigners in another land, and would still rather not have had to leave their homeland.

MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 20:19:15

I don’t know why you think that just because someone welcomes Chinese people, that makes them also support Brexit

I know who the Brexit supporters are, janeainsworth and some are posting on this thread saying that the Hong Kongers would be welcome. They're the ones who are astounding me that, and the denial of being anti immigration

I'm perfectly happy for them to come to the UK from HK to escape repression, but then, I was perfectly happy with EU FOM and with accepting refugees.

vegansrock Wed 01-Jul-20 20:01:05

So if they are poor and not an asset they won’t be welcome?

varian Wed 01-Jul-20 19:05:53

Those of us who voted remain tended to be more tolerant, outgoing, inclusive, internationalist and welcoming to immigrants.

PamelaJ1 Wed 01-Jul-20 19:05:14

Varian, the difference is that you can voice your opinion.
More of the population disagreed with you rather than agreed.
You had a vote. The people in HK didn’t.

Boris hasn’t just sent someone out to arrest you.

janeainsworth Wed 01-Jul-20 19:03:01

Maizie I voted remain, and would vote the same way again if I had the chance.
I don’t know why you think that just because someone welcomes Chinese people, that makes them also support Brexit confused

varian Wed 01-Jul-20 19:01:49

My Hong Kong friends, who are democrats, are having to adjust to living under an undemocratic regime.

Many of us, like the 50 million UK citizens who never voted for brexit, are having to adjust to having lost our EU citizenship.

That is the way politics works in a less than perfect world.

MaizieD Wed 01-Jul-20 18:55:15

So, we're perfectly happy to welcome and give a free pass to 'educated' people from Hong Kong (to take the jobs of our educated people?) but not from the EU.

My gast is totally flabbered by this thread

maddyone Wed 01-Jul-20 18:44:55

I’m pleased the offer has been made. Some will come I expect, but others will choose not to. Those who come will want to work and contribute.

Urmstongran Wed 01-Jul-20 18:41:08

Well said indeed janeainsworth and Peardrop.
Boris did the right thing here. That said most probably won’t come. Mind you, if the CCP ramp things up - who knows?

Jane10 Wed 01-Jul-20 18:37:14

The Hong Kong people who have moved to Canada and elsewhere have turned out to be positive assets for their new countries. Many seem to be skilled, well trained and entrepreneurial.

GagaJo Wed 01-Jul-20 18:28:55

My Chinese friends are very opinionated. Their opinions and perspective of the UK are very different to yours. Not flattering, in the same way ours aren't about them.

Have you seen the Hong Kong protests? They aren't a new thing.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 01-Jul-20 18:27:59

I agree with your post Pamela, they will be educated and possibly wealthy and that is what this country needs. Also I am happy that Ladymuck has left the Boris Fan Club grin and could soon join the leftie club.

PamelaJ1 Wed 01-Jul-20 18:02:23

Merlotgran I agree.
There will be no opportunity for the Hong Kongers to go on a forum like this. They will have to shut up and put up.
Now I know that Gransnet isn’t a way of life but it is one example of our freedom.

Smileless2012 Wed 01-Jul-20 18:01:30

Well said Peardrop I see the myth that those who voted for Brexit only did so because of immigration is alive and kicking.

Me too merlotgran neither China or Hong Kong are places I'd want to live in.

varian Wed 01-Jul-20 17:59:22

Yes, merltgran, but I'm guessing you are not Chinese. My HK friends are very Chinese.

merlotgran Wed 01-Jul-20 17:54:15

Well it's their choice, varian but I'd rather take my chances with things as they are here than live in a country with no freedom of speech.

varian Wed 01-Jul-20 17:47:37

Having lived in Hong Kong, we still have many friends there.

Yesterday I received a whatsapp with a photo of some of our friends socialising together in a way we cannot currently do because the pandemic was much better controlled there than it has been here.

Many of our friends do have the right to come to the UK, including British University graduates, but although they may despair about the restriction of human rights imposed on the territory by Beijing, I do not think they will see the UK in its present pathetically weakened state as a better alternative.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 01-Jul-20 17:47:04

Totally correct janeainsworth

China has treated the Hong Kong residents appallingly.

GagaJo Wed 01-Jul-20 17:37:30

I have a lovely ex student and his family in HK that I hoped would come here. Very sadly not interested in coming to plague island.

quizqueen Wed 01-Jul-20 17:34:19

Mr Trump has also said that many people from Hong Kong will be welcome which proves that he and Brexiteers are not racist. These are people who will more than likely be an asset to this country and the USA. What we don't need are freeloaders who will offer our countries nothing.

lemongrove Wed 01-Jul-20 17:29:48

Peardrop50

Happy to welcome all that make a valuable contribution to our society or are vulnerable in theirs. The majority of us Brexiters did not vote to leave the great behemoth of the EU because of immigration.

Absolutely! ??

Peardrop50 Wed 01-Jul-20 17:22:26

Happy to welcome all that make a valuable contribution to our society or are vulnerable in theirs. The majority of us Brexiters did not vote to leave the great behemoth of the EU because of immigration.