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varian

Very depressing but true.

The only people who could possibly save us from this madness are those who were taken in but have now woken up to the truth

There may be a number of Tory MPs who have woken up to the nonsense and will draw the line at supporting this latest mad move, but I am not sure that there are enough of them who will be prepared to put the good of the nation before their party or their personal political ambitions

The rest of us, living in this sham democracy, are powerless...

Perhaps those who voted Tory and who disapprove of the current machinations could contact their MPs to let them know exactly how they feel. Some MPs are planning to vote against the govt but they might be thankful for support from their constituents.

Very depressing but true.

The only people who could possibly save us from this madness are those who were taken in but have now woken up to the truth

There may be a number of Tory MPs who have woken up to the nonsense and will draw the line at supporting this latest mad move, but I am not sure that there are enough of them who will be prepared to put the good of the nation before their party or their personal political ambitions

The rest of us, living in this sham democracy, are powerless...

It's more like a fantasy that reeks havoc on the populace and helps neither country. I don't understand the cult-like following that has arisen.

If we're talking 'cultlike' it seems like a good place to leave this, from Chris Grey's Brexit Blog, Friday 11th Sept.

After talking about and detailing, the probable repercussions from trying to renege on the Withdrawal Act, he has this to say:

I doubt, though, that any of this will concern the Brexit Ultras. Always a nihilist cult, the passage of time has made them utterly indifferent to anything other than Brexit in its most extreme form, and always moving the definition of what that means to a new extremity. They are now willing to sacrifice anything and everything to a cause that has long since ceased to bear any resemblance whatsoever to the promises they made. It has now become – and I don’t use this term lightly or carelessly – a form of political insanity, and it is an insanity which has spread to the entire government.

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2020/09/

I repeat what I wrote on another thread. The phrases that come to mind:- Bread and circuses, smoke and mirrors. Ye gods and little fishes, what 'reality' do the right-wing here and especially, in the US, live in? It's more like a fantasy that reeks havoc on the populace and helps neither country. I don't understand the cult-like following that has arisen.

Coronavirus has allowed the government to pretty much do what they like regarding Brexit - people are more concerned about that, and all the devastation that goes with it - death, illness, job losses - brexit is nothing in comparison.
Plus remainers have realised that everything they tried to do to stop brexit ( petitions / marches etc ) got them absolutely nowhere.

The Japanese were very keen on a deal because it removes a lot of EU restrictions, so very much in their interests, for the U.K., they buy whisky a few food specialities but very little manufactured goods. Of course it was an easy deal!.

MaizieD

Of course, if our government goes ahead with its intention to break international law than the Japanese parliament may decline to ratify their agreement with us.

At least the Japanese parliament has a say, as opposed to our parliament who has no say whatsoever.

Democracy gone.

And not just the Jaanese.

Of course, if our government goes ahead with its intention to break international law than the Japanese parliament may decline to ratify their agreement with us.

They can buy our Stilton cheese, vegansrock.

vegansrock

We can buy their cars and electronics and they can buy our...what exactly?

Cheese apparently???

We can buy their cars and electronics and they can buy our...what exactly?

I think we know how our government would react if the Japanese parliament decided not to ratified the deal and we were told that the agreed deal needs to be modified.

Yes what excellent news! It was lucky that all that was needed was to tweak the EU- Japanese original trade deal.

It represents the huge amount on 0.07% of our GDP.

It has to be ratified by the Japanese parliament I see as opposed to our parliament who get no say whatsoever, as we are no longer a democratic country.

Let us hope the fact that our new-fascist governments willingness to break agreed contracts doesn’t go against us as the Japanese are very keen on honour and honesty.

Good news Trade Deal with Japan

Ha ha I bet Gina Miller is spitting feathers ???

* that it is just

This has been posted on Twitter, apparently the Gina Miller case has set a precedent which the Government could/is going to use.

I feel uncomfortable with the Government that I voted for being dishonest and deceitful and can only hope that is blustering towards the EU negotiators.

MaizieD

There was some discussion on legal twitter about whether or not the Queen could refuse her assent to an act which embodied the breaking of international law.

That would be interesting...

I think her maj is a busted flush quite honestly.

I know I’m a republican but the myth that she has the final say etc. Is just that, a myth.

No point in the institution really except perhaps for the GN posters to stick pins in those they don’t like??

I think people voted to leave largely because they wanted immigration to stop. However, leaving the EU is a much bigger picture than just 1 topic. I agree that with the majority voting Leave in a democratic country, the Government has had to abide by that vote. What I don't like is Boris signing off a Brexit deal and now going back on his word. If he persists then that decision could have far-reaching consequences.

There was some discussion on legal twitter about whether or not the Queen could refuse her assent to an act which embodied the breaking of international law.

That would be interesting...

The Trade and Industry minister Zahawi was on TV this morning trying to justify the UK breaking the agreement on NI. Playing down the issue as a purely temporary measure that only comes into play if there is no agreement.

It looks like there will be no agreement so any temporary agreement will become permanent, the EU know this and are not best pleased. Just how they plan to stop the U.K. if we break the agreement deliberately and are prepared to fight, maybe trade sanctions, which will be reciprocated, chaos.

The fact that the Russian report did not even look into Russia's interference in the fraudulent referendum speaks volumes.

Let's be absolutely clear about this, varian. The Russian report was not responsible for investigating possible foreign interference. What the report made clear was that there was absolutely no will from the government of the time that it should be investigated, despite international concerns about Russian activities in many countries.

If you look at the history of 'investigation' of areas of possibly illegality pertaining to the EU referendum you will find a series of inexplicably 'dropped' or still uncompleted investigations. There's not just a rabbit away, there's a whole warren full away...

Feels like the U.K. is a sinking ship, rats will be leaving, some already have.
Sorry, not to be constructive or informative in any way, it isn't easy to maintain positivity these days, nothing seems to make sense.