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Brexit Re-booted

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-20 08:07:06

Whilst we have all been busy with C19, Brexit has been still in the background, so I thought as a break from C19 I would start up Brexit again??

Latest gossip/leak

Liz Truss has written to Johnson warning him that his border plans “ risk smuggling, damage to the U.K. reputation and WTO wrath who may well launch a legal challenge over the plan to phase in customs and health checks Over 6 months.

Something else that’s going to run and run.

Negotiations with the EU are due to end 31 October.

biba70 Thu 01-Oct-20 18:44:44

You may not wish to give them away - but no-one can be forced to buy them! And huge delays at ports, and possible blockages- will be the end of that.

Alegrias Thu 01-Oct-20 18:44:00

Six out of the 27 EU countries are landlocked, hardly "a good deal" of them. Is this you and "alternative facts" again Ug?

biba70 Thu 01-Oct-20 18:36:01

Maybe the EU is landlocled in parts- but perhaps UG has NOT yet noticed we are an Island? I would have thought after Raab's truly ridiculous statement last year, most people would have picked up on that ;)

Sarnia Thu 01-Oct-20 18:32:52

I hope Boris will support our fisherman. I have a worry that he will use them in a trade off with the EU.

Davidhs Thu 01-Oct-20 18:28:32

“how come the French want it so much?”

Because the French fishermen will blockade the ports and motorways, if we try to take fishing away, that sort of disruption usually means loss of life too.

varian Thu 01-Oct-20 18:28:06

Many EU countries do have coasts and fishing industries and they had representatives on the EU Fishing Committee who looked after their interests. We did not.

We had lair Farage determined to undermine our EU membershnip at all costs, even inculuding the destruction of our fishing industry.

Urmstongran Thu 01-Oct-20 18:17:59

Also perhaps a good deal of the EU is landlocked? Makes a big difference.
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varian Thu 01-Oct-20 18:15:26

It is also the case that the UK government allowed UK fishermen to sell their boats with their quotas to other countries, something which could not happen in other EU countries because none of them had Nigel Farage as their representative on the EU Fishing Committee.

Perhaps if Farage had taken the trouble to turn up at the meetings (he only attended one 1 of 42 meetings) he would have noticed that other EU countries protected their fishing quotas, but he let down our fishing industry and our country to achieve brexit.

Urmstongran Thu 01-Oct-20 18:10:47

Well we’re obviously not just going to give those fish away biba.

Probably exchange some of them for something we want I expect.

No varian I never said or voted for the ‘easiest deal ever’. That was David Davies I think.

That said, a deal will be done.

biba70 Thu 01-Oct-20 18:07:37

haven't got the figures in front of me, but isn't the case that most fish caught by UK fishermen is exported to EU as not to our taste, and vice-versa?

Isn't there a 'problem' there ;) UG?

varian Thu 01-Oct-20 18:04:46

Are you still telling us that this will be the easiest deal in history because we hold all the cards UG?

Urmstongran Thu 01-Oct-20 18:01:41

Ah but it’s all about the optics growstuff. It’s ours to negotiate away, or not.

Anyway if it’s so piffling, how come the French want it so much?

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growstuff Thu 01-Oct-20 17:10:32

Useless fact of the day:

The entire UK fishing and fish processing industry has roughly the same turnover as Poundland.

growstuff Thu 01-Oct-20 17:07:51

biba70

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/uk-warned-chemical-supply-will-disappear-after-brexit-226956?jwsource=cl

so some of you find it very funny ahahaha. At this stage, one has to wonder why - and there are only two posible reasons.

I think it has to be hysteria. I wouldn't mind some of whatever they're on.

growstuff Thu 01-Oct-20 17:05:55

Snippet from an exchange in the HoC today:

Hilary Benn - The cost to the chemical industry to register all chemicals would be £1billion... so why has the government imposed such enormous costs & red tape on one of our most successful Industries?

Michael Gove - That's an inevitable consequence of leaving the EU..

So there we have it! A billion pounds for nothing was inevitable. I honestly don't remember him saying anything about before the referendum.

But, hey, people knew what they were voting for. How could they have known?

Hmm ... financial services, chemical industry, car manufacturing ... It's not going well, is it?

So when does Project Fear stop becoming Project Reality?

Urmstongran Thu 01-Oct-20 17:03:32

The EU has over 800 cases pending court action.

biba70 Thu 01-Oct-20 16:32:16

and of course that means pharmaceuticals too sad

biba70 Thu 01-Oct-20 16:08:14

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/uk-warned-chemical-supply-will-disappear-after-brexit-226956?jwsource=cl

so some of you find it very funny ahahaha. At this stage, one has to wonder why - and there are only two posible reasons.

varian Thu 01-Oct-20 14:22:00

Message to brexiters

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obriens-message-to-brexiteers-after-eu-launches-legal-action-against-uk/

JenniferEccles Thu 01-Oct-20 13:34:42

Urmstongran ?

Yes we are all doomed aren’t we?

If the virus doesn’t get us then there is Brexit lurking round the corner.
We will either starve to death, or die from lack of medications.
What else? Oh yes we will all be poisoned by those chlorinated chickens we are apparently being forced to eat.

We may as well give up now.

I’m just off to text my offspring to tell them not to bother buying dad and I anything for Christmas as apparently we won’t be around to make use of it!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Oct-20 12:44:15

I am soooooo bloody annoyed.

Alegrias Thu 01-Oct-20 12:43:15

Oh, MaizieD, they're just being doombuckets! (sarcasm smile)

MaizieD Thu 01-Oct-20 12:27:28

One for the ostriches optimists...

Trade will be a “day-to day struggle” after Brexit is completed, MPs have been told, in a bleak forecast from the key aerospace, chemicals and pharmaceuticals industries.

None of the three witnesses could state a reason for welcoming the end of the transition period, on 31 December, when challenged by Hilary Benn, the Brexit committee’s chairman.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-northern-ireland-mps-boris-johnson-b714335.html

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Oct-20 11:18:33

varian

The EU has taken the first step in legal action against the UK over Boris Johnson's plans to make changes to the Internal Markets bill.

www.lbc.co.uk/politics/eu-begins-legal-action-against-uk-over-withdrawal-agreement-changes/

Good.

varian Thu 01-Oct-20 11:16:16

The EU has taken the first step in legal action against the UK over Boris Johnson's plans to make changes to the Internal Markets bill.

www.lbc.co.uk/politics/eu-begins-legal-action-against-uk-over-withdrawal-agreement-changes/