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CAREN Act To Stop Racially Motivated Police Calls Proposed By California Lawmaker

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GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 00:56:56

www.ladbible.com/news/weird-caren-act-to-stop-racially-motivated-911-calls-proposed-20200709?fbclid=IwAR0skM_QqKY5tjb45I0e6rhJ-v5qhGOFDzXwADi0FLtbS6l6lpUoFbRdJMQ

A new law proposed by a lawmaker in California is aimed at stopping people from making racially motivated calls to the police.

It's been proposed by San Francisco Supervisor Shamann Walton, and is called the 'CAREN' act, which stands for Caution Against Racially Exploitative Non-Emergencies.

Recently there has been a large uptick in incidents during which white women call the police to make reports against people of colour who they claim have made them feel uncomfortable while they're going about their daily business.

These people have become known colloquially as 'Karens'.

Calls to police can put the subject of those frivolous 911 contacts in danger of arrest for a crime they haven't committed, or an interaction with the police that could otherwise have been avoided.

Just recently, Amy Cooper called the police on a man who was birdwatching in a New York park because he'd asked her if she could put her dog onto a leash.

Then, closer to where the law is being proposed, Jennifer Schulte called the police when she saw two black men having a barbecue in a park.

A woman also threatened to call the cops on a man for stenciling 'Black Lives Matter' in chalk on his own house.

This new law aims to punish those who think they can use the police to intimidate people of colour who have done nothing wrong.

Walton argues that the proposed measures 'are part of a larger nationwide movement to address racial biases and implement consequences for weaponizing emergency resources with racist intentions'.

It's similar to a bill put forward by California State Assembly member Rob Bonta that calls for people who use law enforcement in a way that is biased towards people for their race, class, appearance, or religion.

Speaking about that piece of legislation, Bonta said: "This bill could protect millions of Californians from becoming targets of hate and prevent the weaponization of our law enforcement against communities of colour."

Let's hope that it makes a difference.

Illte Sat 11-Jul-20 11:21:56

Oh, the P word.

But you are priveleged too Starblaze, on your ipad with access to the Internet.

Anybody in Britain is priveleged to have access to clean water, energy, health care.

Even black Americans are priveleged compared to the limbless children I saw in Vietnam and Cambodia.

Privelege is comparative. I'm tired of it being bandied about. Until everyone is prepared to give up their own Privelege then it's meaningless to accuse others of having Privelege.

Chewbacca Sat 11-Jul-20 11:04:27

Why do you think that Starblaze?

Starblaze Sat 11-Jul-20 11:03:28

There's a lot of privilege showing on this thread

Chewbacca Sat 11-Jul-20 10:55:37

Although I sympathise, while black people are being brutally murdered in public and in our criminal justice system, I think we have to prioritise.

I agree with that 100% GagaJo but I can't see how demonisng and ridiculing a whole strata of society helps with that. It surely just creates more friction and division in an already divided society. And the ridiculous thing is that some of the "white, middle class women" who have been found guilty of clear racial bias against black males, have actually been in their 20s or 30s and so very unlikely to have been called Karen anyway.

Best to keep to specifics of individuals and not tarnish a whole demographic who condemn racism in all its forms.

maddyone Sat 11-Jul-20 10:55:10

The brutal murder of George Floyd happened in America. We abhor what happened, but we are powerless to change what happens in America. But I don’t understand the comment that black people are being ‘brutally murdered.......in our criminal justice system.’ Is this happening in the UK?

GagaJo Sat 11-Jul-20 10:31:54

Although I sympathise, while black people are being brutally murdered in public and in our criminal justice system, I think we have to prioritise.

Callistemon Sat 11-Jul-20 10:29:33

GagaJo

I got it earlier Maw. I just don't see it the same way as you.

Like the Essex girl jokes, I just think it's not to be taken seriously.

It's a serious issue, though, and deserves a better, more appropriate, name.

Not one which has the potential to annoy other women, antagonise them and distract from the issues.

Callistemon Sat 11-Jul-20 10:27:16

GagaJo

Getting Angry Grannies Again?
Granny Angers Good And Jolly Others?

grin

We could have a competition
Best answer wins um, er, any suggestions?

One year's free subscription to Gransnet?

GagaJo Sat 11-Jul-20 10:25:33

I got it earlier Maw. I just don't see it the same way as you.

Like the Essex girl jokes, I just think it's not to be taken seriously.

MawB Sat 11-Jul-20 10:23:30

?She’s got it!
By Jove she’s got it! ?

GagaJo Sat 11-Jul-20 10:20:46

Getting Angry Grannies Again?
Granny Angers Good And Jolly Others?

MawB Sat 11-Jul-20 10:15:56

So is there a generic descriptor for people who come on a site and use pejorative terms for the demographic it represents, I wonder? ???

Chewbacca Sat 11-Jul-20 10:12:54

Like calling Gransnetters boomers when many are not

Yes Callistemon, it's strange to see what is meant to be a pejorative term for older people, being used to describe those on a site for grandparents, isn't it? hmm

Callistemon Sat 11-Jul-20 10:04:08

rosecarmel

Callistemon

Why not call them Rosecarmels?

Isn't Carmel in California?

Or simply American -- as previously suggested- Since they are one in the same-

Which suggests all Karens are the same- As well as all African Americans-

I suppose if people have small feet they don't mind habitually sticking them in their mouth ..

I think you've got my point rosecarmel!!

Like calling Gransnetters boomers when many are not.

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 22:58:28

Being not “bring”

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 22:57:42

rosecarmel

Callistemon

Why not call them Rosecarmels?

Isn't Carmel in California?

Or simply American -- as previously suggested- Since they are one in the same-

Which suggests all Karens are the same- As well as all African Americans-

I suppose if people have small feet they don't mind habitually sticking them in their mouth ..

confusedconfused. Bring obscure again I fear.

Whoever mentioned Odontipedology?

rosecarmel Fri 10-Jul-20 22:47:14

Callistemon

Why not call them Rosecarmels?

Isn't Carmel in California?

Or simply American -- as previously suggested- Since they are one in the same-

Which suggests all Karens are the same- As well as all African Americans-

I suppose if people have small feet they don't mind habitually sticking them in their mouth ..

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 22:15:42

An unpleasant trend, Dollymc2

Dollymc2 Fri 10-Jul-20 22:13:15

It's derogatory, why give something derogatory a woman's name?
What's that all about?
I remember many years ago having to attend one of those God awful team building events
You had to write down your name and others had to discuss the connotations that your name held
It was rather humiliating
My name suggests a 'fluffy' person
I'm actually not

lemongrove Fri 10-Jul-20 21:44:31

Riverwalk

Of course it's an important issue which in my opinion is trivialised by giving it a woman's name, rather than a proper legal description!

So you can use an innocuous name to describe a woman who is mouthy, or awkward, aggressive, or blatantly racist?

It's just so sexist!

Absolutely!

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 21:09:53

Yes.

Any acronym but the name of thousands of innocent women.

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 21:05:56

Caution Against Racially Motivated Exploitative Libel ?

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 21:00:30

Caution Against Racially Motivated Episodes of Libel.

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 20:57:48

Why not call them Rosecarmels?

Isn't Carmel in California?

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 20:55:38

Oh dear, rosecarmel
How sad.

I am not a boomer nor a Karen!