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CAREN Act To Stop Racially Motivated Police Calls Proposed By California Lawmaker

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GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 00:56:56

www.ladbible.com/news/weird-caren-act-to-stop-racially-motivated-911-calls-proposed-20200709?fbclid=IwAR0skM_QqKY5tjb45I0e6rhJ-v5qhGOFDzXwADi0FLtbS6l6lpUoFbRdJMQ

A new law proposed by a lawmaker in California is aimed at stopping people from making racially motivated calls to the police.

It's been proposed by San Francisco Supervisor Shamann Walton, and is called the 'CAREN' act, which stands for Caution Against Racially Exploitative Non-Emergencies.

Recently there has been a large uptick in incidents during which white women call the police to make reports against people of colour who they claim have made them feel uncomfortable while they're going about their daily business.

These people have become known colloquially as 'Karens'.

Calls to police can put the subject of those frivolous 911 contacts in danger of arrest for a crime they haven't committed, or an interaction with the police that could otherwise have been avoided.

Just recently, Amy Cooper called the police on a man who was birdwatching in a New York park because he'd asked her if she could put her dog onto a leash.

Then, closer to where the law is being proposed, Jennifer Schulte called the police when she saw two black men having a barbecue in a park.

A woman also threatened to call the cops on a man for stenciling 'Black Lives Matter' in chalk on his own house.

This new law aims to punish those who think they can use the police to intimidate people of colour who have done nothing wrong.

Walton argues that the proposed measures 'are part of a larger nationwide movement to address racial biases and implement consequences for weaponizing emergency resources with racist intentions'.

It's similar to a bill put forward by California State Assembly member Rob Bonta that calls for people who use law enforcement in a way that is biased towards people for their race, class, appearance, or religion.

Speaking about that piece of legislation, Bonta said: "This bill could protect millions of Californians from becoming targets of hate and prevent the weaponization of our law enforcement against communities of colour."

Let's hope that it makes a difference.

GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 18:13:01

MawB

I frankly wonder what OP’s motivation was other than to inform us about another country’s prejudices and current problems.
It couldn’t possibly have been a snide dig at another section of the female population could it? An attempt to signal a degree of virtue and being in with a (very unpleasant) new trend?

If you make a sarky statement you'll get a sarky answer.

GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 18:12:01

Clutch of pearls?

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 18:09:11

sharp intake of breath

GagaJo Fri 10-Jul-20 18:08:26

Oh get a grip Maw. I thought it was interesting is all. Life isn't one long plot.

.'Karen' jokes and memes have been around for at least 6 months. It's not a 'new trend' as you put it. It'll be gone again in another 6 months.

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 18:02:03

AGAA4

I am feeling quite shocked that white women would do this to any black men just out of spite and prejudice.

They are very nasty people and giving them a nice name like
Karen is not right.

I am sure we could come up with a better name for them!

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking behaviors

Histrionas?
Racial Hoaxers?
Racist Misandrists?

But not Karen.

Starblaze Fri 10-Jul-20 18:01:44

If all lives matter, prove it.

Stand with BLM until racism against black people stops.

Then we can have an all lives matter party

Callistemon Fri 10-Jul-20 17:57:45

Starblaze

I feel a bit bad for people called Karen but this is an important issue. I've watched video after video recently of this sort of thing and it's heart breaking.

Yes, it is, very important.

But not at all fair on decent people called Karen.
I hope they change the name of the campaign.

Do they have such a charge as Wasting Police Time in America?
If not, they should have.

Sparkling Fri 10-Jul-20 17:50:50

River walk, please don’t patronise me because I don’t agree with you, I feel the Guardian do not give a fair assessment and unbiased view on things, I make up my own mind on the evidence. This Karen business, ridiculous. Karen is a very nice Christian name why turn it into something shameful? I believe in treating people as just that, people, I don’t need telling how to behave. In all walks of life there are injustices, not just black lives. Because all lives matter, if you don’t agree with that statement well you are entitled to your own views.

eazybee Fri 10-Jul-20 16:50:36

"Karen has become shorthand on social media for a stereotype of a certain type of woman, one who is often middle aged, speaks her mind and, in the UK at least, happens to be middle or working class." D.T. 8.7.2020 KJ Yossman D.T
Shorthand for bossy and entitled women. No mention of racial prejudice. (I am aware the OP refers to CAREN.)
The author of this particular piece was christened Karen and is tired of the jokes and now accusations that accompany her name.
An insult to promote the use of any person's name in such a way.

Starblaze Fri 10-Jul-20 16:26:14

It's one of those weird Internet things that just takes off Riverwalk and detracts from the real issue overall. I don't know what could be done to stop it now

Riverwalk Fri 10-Jul-20 16:20:28

Of course it's an important issue which in my opinion is trivialised by giving it a woman's name, rather than a proper legal description!

So you can use an innocuous name to describe a woman who is mouthy, or awkward, aggressive, or blatantly racist?

It's just so sexist!

Starblaze Fri 10-Jul-20 16:10:40

I feel a bit bad for people called Karen but this is an important issue. I've watched video after video recently of this sort of thing and it's heart breaking.

Riverwalk Fri 10-Jul-20 16:05:00

rosecarmel in the UK we have 'racially aggravated' offences which I suspect the Central Park woman could have been charged with.

I'm interested to see what sort of punishment she gets - it could have ended so very badly for the man involved.

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 16:02:02

I frankly wonder what OP’s motivation was other than to inform us about another country’s prejudices and current problems.
It couldn’t possibly have been a snide dig at another section of the female population could it? An attempt to signal a degree of virtue and being in with a (very unpleasant) new trend?

AGAA4 Fri 10-Jul-20 15:58:40

I am feeling quite shocked that white women would do this to any black men just out of spite and prejudice.

They are very nasty people and giving them a nice name like
Karen is not right.

I am sure we could come up with a better name for them!

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 15:58:13

rosecarmel

MawB

rosecarmel

Riverwalk

If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen

The awful woman in the Central Park case has been charged with making a false report, in addition to losing her job.

rosecarmel a law doesn't have to have a snappy name to be on the statute book.

I asked for an alternative- ?

We have an offence called Wasting Police Time.

Excellent! But not specific- It doesn't address the race related occurrence- I do agree that it doesn't need to be called Karen whatever- It's discriminatory- But it does need to be more specific than what you suggested-

I suggest that is then up to your legislature.
(“Karen” is not exactly descriptive either.)
Surely wasting police time is the same whether the motivation is racially related, religion related or just what lawyers refer to as “vexatious”

rosecarmel Fri 10-Jul-20 15:42:54

MawB

rosecarmel

Riverwalk

If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen

The awful woman in the Central Park case has been charged with making a false report, in addition to losing her job.

rosecarmel a law doesn't have to have a snappy name to be on the statute book.

I asked for an alternative- ?

We have an offence called Wasting Police Time.

Excellent! But not specific- It doesn't address the race related occurrence- I do agree that it doesn't need to be called Karen whatever- It's discriminatory- But it does need to be more specific than what you suggested-

SueDonim Fri 10-Jul-20 15:34:29

If the law really needs a name other than a descriptive, how about the Cooper law? Cooper is the name of both the (alleged) sinner and the sinned against.

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 15:31:50

rosecarmel

Riverwalk

If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen

The awful woman in the Central Park case has been charged with making a false report, in addition to losing her job.

rosecarmel a law doesn't have to have a snappy name to be on the statute book.

I asked for an alternative- ?

We have an offence called Wasting Police Time.

rosecarmel Fri 10-Jul-20 15:30:22

MawB

rosecarmel

There's quite a collection, male, female, whatever the case may be-

If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen case-

Does everything on the Statute Book have to have a short snappy name?
Laws in the U.K. don’t - oh dear, am I stereotyping another nation again?

Snappy comebacks: Ok

Snappy Titled Laws: Not Ok

?

rosecarmel Fri 10-Jul-20 15:25:43

Riverwalk

^If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen^

The awful woman in the Central Park case has been charged with making a false report, in addition to losing her job.

rosecarmel a law doesn't have to have a snappy name to be on the statute book.

I asked for an alternative- ?

MawB Fri 10-Jul-20 15:05:00

rosecarmel

There's quite a collection, male, female, whatever the case may be-

If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen case-

Does everything on the Statute Book have to have a short snappy name?
Laws in the U.K. don’t - oh dear, am I stereotyping another nation again?

Lucca Fri 10-Jul-20 15:03:30

That was to Callistemon

Lucca Fri 10-Jul-20 15:02:46

“Harpy “ “gorgon”. “Medusa”??

Riverwalk Fri 10-Jul-20 15:01:50

If using names isn't the way, perhaps offer some alternatives of what to call a law for the situation where white women do what they do to black men as in the Central Park Karen

The awful woman in the Central Park case has been charged with making a false report, in addition to losing her job.

rosecarmel a law doesn't have to have a snappy name to be on the statute book.