Leavers. Were you absolutely clear that a no deal Brexit would mean job losses?

I promised to return MaizieD.

My husband said he didn’t think job losses- in the sense of No Deal was promoted per se, but that job losses in general as a result of Brexit, was. Even with a deal things would change. Some jobs would go. Others would take their place.

So what will this freedom be like?

25Avalon

The only problem quizqueen is yes whilst I am willing to support British industry and farmers so much is made in China which is not good for air miles. I was knitting the other day with Sirdar (good old English Company) only to discover the yarn was made in China.

Yes, we could think we're buying British until we read the small print, 25Avalon

George Osborne warned about hundreds of thousands of job losses in a speech at the beginning of June 2016.
But he was scaremongering of course.

Kadinsky yes, I agree about the aftermath of COVID19 probably being far more devastating than Brexit as far as the economy and job losses.

I believe the word used in terms of possible job losses was ‘could’ not ‘would’ and as someone said, the comment was referring to the short term.

Why not take an optimistic view ?

We have left. We may or may not have a deal (and I for one really hope we stand firm on the determination to protect our fishing waters) but it’s surely time now to move on and relish our freedom.

I do wonder why you are still concerned about what may or may not have been said years ago

I remember being told that there would be more jobs once all the pesky EU citizens, who had stolen our plucky lads' jobs, had gone home.

What is the point of this question? Looking for an excuse to have another go at those who voted to Leave?

It wouldn't be having a go to just observe that voters were not told of the possibility of No Deal and job losses, if that is the case.

If voters were told that, and voted Leave anyway, presumably they had their reasons.

perhaps - but the combination of the two = absolute and total disaster and jobs lost galore. Do you disagree?

Will there be any jobs to lose once the coronavirus pandemic has finally disappeared?
C19 has caused more misery & job loses than brexit ever will.

Not having a go but ''This was in the short term. However, the long-term benefits would be worth it.''

do you still believe this to be the case now?

OOh, sorry, got the wrong person. My last was for ladymuck

@eazybee I thought it was held to be rude to correct other poster's mistakes?

What is the point of this question? Looking for an excuse to have another go at those who voted to Leave?

I told you in my OP, eazybee. I just wanted to know what Leavers could remember about being told (or not), in the campaigning period, of the possibility of there being a no deal which would involve job losses.

It was in no way at all intended to be a goady thread.

QQ although I agree with you about buying British produced goods, and food it is not always possible. My aim is to reduce air miles, nothing to do with the EU by the way. But, back to the question; I certainly do not remember there being any warnings about job losses, in fact the contrary. I do however, remember anyone who dared to point out possible problems was dismissed as being part of 'Project Fear' and I fully expect all job losses to be blamed on covid19 rather than than the sun lit uplands of post Brexit Britain.

We were warned that there would be a transition period, during which jobs might be lost while the country adjusted. This was in the short term. However, the long-term benefits would be worth it.
What is the point of this question? Looking for an excuse to have another go at those who voted to Leave?

MayBee70

I remember being told that Turkey were about to join the EU. And something about a EU army. And that companies such as Nissan had no intention of leaving this country if leave won. And that we held all the cards.

That was because a certain BJ had been lobbying the EU on behalf of Turkey before he switched from Remain to Brexit. There was never any chance of Turkey joining because they met only 1 of the 30 or so criteria.

Yes. I heard it was a possibility, but I had already considered that by myself. Do you seriously think it wasn't discussed?
(By the way, it is Leadsom. So important to be accurate, don't you think?)

I remember being told that Turkey were about to join the EU. And something about a EU army. And that companies such as Nissan had no intention of leaving this country if leave won. And that we held all the cards.

But varian, those were warnings by Remainers. I'm trying to find out if there were any warnings from the Leave campaigners. Because that is what Leadsome appears to be implying. That Leave voters were warned by the Leave campaign.

The only problem quizqueen is yes whilst I am willing to support British industry and farmers so much is made in China which is not good for air miles. I was knitting the other day with Sirdar (good old English Company) only to discover the yarn was made in China.

Although there were warnings about the negative consequenses of any kind of brexit, let alone a no-deal brexit, and these warnings were backed up with expert evidence, they were always dismissed as "project fear".

Heads in the sand, or at least fingers in ears, the true believers in brexit refused to listen, especially after Gove told them "the British people are fed up with experts".

Well, yes. Digressing.

Which German Business leaders would that be, Ug?

The EU has already 'replaced' potential lost income from the UK.

Which Leavers were saying it, lemon? Can you remember?

quizqueen, I think you're on the wrong thread.

German business leaders are annoyed.
A deal will be done.

Sorry MaizieD for digressing.

Both Leavers and Remainer MP’s were saying so MaizieD

Also, I could give you many examples of jobs which have been lost because the UK was a member of the EU but, I'm afraid, I can't be bothered because you wouldn't believe me anyway!!!

Some businesses will go under, others will thrive- the same as it's always been in the corporate world. One thing is for sure, if you don't support British companies and farmers then they certainly will not survive. So it's up to YOU, the consumer, not to buy foreign produced goods.

Look in your cupboards, your garage and on your drive and see what buying habits you can change. It's no good moaning about loss of jobs if you are buying foreign imported goods thus putting our own workers at risk of losing theirs.

I've always wanted no deal because we will be in a stronger negotiating position once free of the EU entirely when they realise that they can't tell us what to do any longer. I think that other member states will follow us soon too. Discontent has been brewing in the air for far too long, the whole thing will implode soon from within.....HOPEFULLY.

Another thing- it's time for Remainers to give up, you lost, we've bloody left!!!