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I love the statue that has replaced the slave trader

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Jul-20 19:42:08

Wonder how long the far right will let it stand?

3nanny6 Thu 16-Jul-20 14:50:28

The statue of Jen has now been removed. It was a nice statue although I think the raised fist would have antagonized some people living in the area and it could have been vandalized by the mindless minority.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 14:41:53

I vote for Percy Pigeon.

Oops, don't live there any more.

Purplepixie Thu 16-Jul-20 13:21:52

People just cannot put up statues if and when they want. I should go to a vote in that town or city as to whose statue goes up.

eazybee Thu 16-Jul-20 13:16:25

Delighted to hear it has been removed.

SilentGames Thu 16-Jul-20 13:12:20

I think it is dangerous to start allowing the people, especially demonstrators breaking the law to pull down and put up any statues without a vote from the public.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 13:11:20

grin

MerylStreep Thu 16-Jul-20 13:05:17

Callistamon
That explains it. Another useless article to add to the list of many ?

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 12:59:21

Loislovesstewie

What have pigeons done to harm anyone? I quite like them and the cooing noise they make.

Poo!

They have been after our blackcurrants too and left stained poo right outside the back door.

Loislovesstewie Thu 16-Jul-20 12:58:06

What have pigeons done to harm anyone? I quite like them and the cooing noise they make.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 12:57:57

I think she's a stylist.

Whatever that means.

MerylStreep Thu 16-Jul-20 12:55:42

Callistamon
Make sure you have some adidas trainers on the shopping list. After all, the artists model took the trouble to advertise the company.
I'm amazed that she's not woke enough to realise who she's advertising. No, actually I'll take that last sentence back. She's probably totally unaware where her trainers etc were made.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 12:44:45

I have no idea why that posted twice.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 12:44:13

Whitewavemark2

Wonder how long the far right will let it stand?

Poor Marvin

He's now labelled as far right by a Gransnetter.
And he always thought he was Labour.

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Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 12:39:02

I vote for no statue at all.

They only attract pigeons.

lemongrove Thu 16-Jul-20 11:43:24

So no good for a Bristol statue?

lemongrove Thu 16-Jul-20 11:42:27

Callistemon

lemongrove

Sparklefizz

We have a black mayor at the moment.

Yes, I know, but the black mayor from so long ago may be a more worthy figure.

Perhaps you may be thinking of Nathaniel Wells, lemongrove. He wasn't Mayor of Bristol but was a wealthy landowner, became Sheriff of Monmouthshire and a magistrate. He moved in high society here.
He was the son of a plantation owner and a slave and his father sent him to England to be educated. He inherited his father's estates and thus became a slave owner himself although he spent his life here.
I've mentioned him before in a thread.

I've also mentioned a statue of Dr Paul Stephenson before as a possibility for the Colston statue but I'm not surprised he and his family don't want that. He is courageous but, I think, modest. He did so much to bring about civil rights.

The statue of Jen Reid is artistically good - but varian is right. It should go into a museum along with that of Edward Colston with all the historical references so that future generations can learn from this.
If the sculptor wants to donate it, of course, and if Jen Reid is agreeable.

I understand there wasn't much enthusiasm for Colston's statue in the first place as there were few public donations forthcoming.

It was just there and I don't think many people took much notice of it, if truth be known.

That name didn’t ring a bell with me ( black mayor twice voted in) so I looked it up.It wasn’t Bristol it was Thetford in Norfolk.His name was Allan Minns ( from the West Indies) and he served two terms as mayor there from 1904.
He was the first black mayor in the UK.

Galaxy Thu 16-Jul-20 11:31:17

Yes we cant have a view on anything unless we behave perfectly all the time.

Rosalyn69 Thu 16-Jul-20 11:28:45

Personally I’d rather see no statue at all.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 11:23:41

trisher

This was a beautiful statue and a real work of art, besides being a statue of a black woman both of which are people under-represented by statues in the UK.
As for Bristol council they made a big mistake just taking it down. Had they left it, with perhaps a date that it would be removed, they would have seen increased numbers of people visiting to take photos of it and local businesses might have benefitted.

grin

Oh, let's take a trip into Bristol to see that statue and while we're up there pop into a clothes shop and buy some cheap clothes/trainers (or expensive, take your pick) made by slave labour somewhere in the world.

Must keep local businesses going.

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 11:19:31

Grandad1943

trisher, the statue was a severe safety hazard and therefore either had to be secured at considerable cost or taken down.

It was also causing serious arguments between people walking across the city centre. Doubtless, with many bars and restaurants etc in that area much more serious trouble may well have broken out adjacent to the statue at the weekend.

Do BLM supporters really wish to hand such a gift as this statue to the extreme right in Britain, for that is what it was?

I agree Grandad

Despite what some may think, people can't just take the law into their own hands

Anyway - did they have planning permission?

Before anyone jumps on me, it was rather tongue-in-cheek but just try cutting down a tree without permission, putting the wrong type of windows in your house etc etc and what happens?

Callistemon Thu 16-Jul-20 11:15:05

lemongrove

Sparklefizz

We have a black mayor at the moment.

Yes, I know, but the black mayor from so long ago may be a more worthy figure.

Perhaps you may be thinking of Nathaniel Wells, lemongrove. He wasn't Mayor of Bristol but was a wealthy landowner, became Sheriff of Monmouthshire and a magistrate. He moved in high society here.
He was the son of a plantation owner and a slave and his father sent him to England to be educated. He inherited his father's estates and thus became a slave owner himself although he spent his life here.
I've mentioned him before in a thread.

I've also mentioned a statue of Dr Paul Stephenson before as a possibility for the Colston statue but I'm not surprised he and his family don't want that. He is courageous but, I think, modest. He did so much to bring about civil rights.

The statue of Jen Reid is artistically good - but varian is right. It should go into a museum along with that of Edward Colston with all the historical references so that future generations can learn from this.
If the sculptor wants to donate it, of course, and if Jen Reid is agreeable.

I understand there wasn't much enthusiasm for Colston's statue in the first place as there were few public donations forthcoming.

It was just there and I don't think many people took much notice of it, if truth be known.

Chewbacca Thu 16-Jul-20 11:12:41

An excellent idea Varian. Works well in Trafalgar square.

libra10 Thu 16-Jul-20 11:07:36

I disagree with replacing the previous statue with the new one.

It was a provocative act of vandalism. Who does she think she is?

I believe the statue has now been taken down, and there should be discussion about a worthy replacement.

Galaxy Thu 16-Jul-20 11:04:17

I dont understand what you mean by our statues ladymuck, the protestors are British.

ladymuck Thu 16-Jul-20 10:58:49

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