Seems the jihadi bride Shamima Begum might be coming back to stand trial in the U.K.

EllanVannin

Growstuff, she'll no doubt have an army of supporters here including Sadiq Khan who has already used his voice over her non-deportation once she lands in this country. Lost appeal or not. Wait for the backlash.
Watch this space !

George Osborne has spoken against her losing her British citizenship. Has he become a "leftie" too? Or is he concerned about the law, as I am.

boodymum67

are you living on a different planet? she`s a terrorist fhs!

She's an alleged terrorist.

tickingbird

As far as I’m concerned she gave her citizenship up when she left but she’ll be back.

But you don't make laws.

are you living on a different planet? she`s a terrorist fhs!

As far as I’m concerned she gave her citizenship up when she left but she’ll be back.

He is British. She is British. They are both our problem.

Then where should we send the murderer of Jo cox

Why should we send him anywhere? He committed murder here. Other terrorists that have carried out such acts here are in prison here. This person left this country to join a murderous cult intent on destroying anyone standing in the way of their intent to take us all back to the dark ages. There’s no comparison.

As for opening the floodgates - it is estimated that 400 British jihadis have already returned here so far.

trisher

What we need is a new colony Galaxy where we can dump all our undesirables. Pity about Australia wasn't it?

They won't let anyone in there with a criminal record!

accepted Urmstongran.

It is a very difficult issue and as your last post demonstrates, it will open the floodgates, and the implications of that doens't bear thinking about. So I think care will have to be taken in the decision.
It's tempting to respond very emotionally, and I do think we "bend over backwards" to accommodate certain people as someone said further back.
But legally she is entitled to appeal. And although nothing can condone the evil acts of terrorists, and first sympathy goes to the victims of course, her age and circumstances must be considered.
I do feel though that we can't just release people back into society who are potentially very dangerous.
I wonder is videolink a possibility. Many cases are conducted at court by videolink. And discussions with legal reps etc could maybe be done this way.

biba70

I truly do not know how to reply to last 2 posts. She was 15 - try and imagine yourself, your children and grandchildren at 15. I find some of the comments here on GN truly disturbing- with racism and bile just below, and often above, the surface.

We don't have to try to imagine ourselves at fifteen! We were fifteen and although it was very many years ago, I still remember.
Most of the posters on here have children who were fifteen, although our grandchildren may not be yet.

Did we think like that?
No.
I cannot imagine there are any on here or their families who would be unfazed by the atrocities she witnessed and in fact helped with.

I think the views would vary just as much about the white Jack Letts.

Then where should we send the murderer of Jo cox.

I can't imagine what it must be like to be so unswerving in my belief that I am right as those who feel able to pronounce that a complete stranger 'knew what she was doing'. How can anyone possibly know that about someone else?

At best, it might be possible to speak for oneself on something like that, but even then, I suspect that the naivety and bravado of youth would make it difficult to be sure.

To those who keep harping on about racism please drop it. Those poor people being murdered by this girls’ husband and cohorts were muslims in the main and I couldn’t sleep at times after hearing of the unimaginable suffering they were enduring at the hands of Isis. Her colour or religion don’t enter into it. As someone posted upthread some people are evil. If she returns she will stay and then what? It gives a green light to the rest to return.

Personally, I’m far more concerned that the people of this country can go about their business without being blown up or lose limbs than I could even pretend to be about Ms Begum.

She was a child and she was groomed. But what to do now?

I hear and applaud the compassion lobby; but I also totally mistrust those who got her into this situation in the first place. I suspect that, were she to regain her British citizenship, there would be unscrupulous people ready to pounce and drag her back to how she was - a woman so brain-washed that she was prepared to allow gross terrorist actions to wash by her.

This young woman will undoubtedly be traumatised by her life experiences so far; and therefore vulnerable to further manipulation. How can we prevent this, I wonder?

But......she was a British citizen and is entitled to appeal the withdrawal of her citizenship. If this necessitates her return to UK then I cannot see that the court could have decided otherwise.

More 'uman rights marches/protests !

Growstuff, she'll no doubt have an army of supporters here including Sadiq Khan who has already used his voice over her non-deportation once she lands in this country. Lost appeal or not. Wait for the backlash.
Watch this space !

Nina at 15 I certainly knew right from wrong, going along with terrorists and not minding seeing heads in a bucket is not normal. At 15 she knew what she was doing, certainly did when interviewed later after having several children and living with the butchers. So no don’t have her back, once they go that’s it, I really don’t mind what happens to her I’m more upset about good and decent people butchered in cold blood. We all have a choice in life, yes we make mistakes, but that sort of error, she is just sorry the way things turned out,

Yes I feel the same biba.

I truly do not know how to reply to last 2 posts. She was 15 - try and imagine yourself, your children and grandchildren at 15. I find some of the comments here on GN truly disturbing- with racism and bile just below, and often above, the surface.

No she shouldn’t, try her by video link. We will fund her legal aid, plus benefits she will no doubt be on for eternity. Who are these people that want her back. It’s a joke but it’s serious, goodness knows it will open the floodgates. Let’s look after the people that actually support Gt Britain. No remorse, just that blank sullen face, she wants to come here as there’s nothing where she is.

The picture I have in my mind is of that young pilot being burnt to death in a cage. For days after I saw that I could hardly sleep. Sometimes I wonder if we have evolved far from our early ancestors.
I am just concerned about who will return next and what they plan to do when here, and I do understand that many are already back . To me, that is the worry in all of this.

Once she’s back here she’ll stay here as there’s nowhere to deport her to.

As for idealistic young girls/men going off to fight for their fellow muslims is nonsense too. Isis were a killing machine/death cult and killing, raping and enslaving their fellow muslims was their bread and butter. Apparently butchering muslims is fine as long as they’re the wrong sort of muslim according to Isis, who are Sunni. It’s not as if they were murdering wholesale the evil westerners but who knows? Maybe one day if we keep bending over backwards to accommodate them.

growstuff where could she be sent? She is not a citizen of any country - no other country will accept her so once on UK soil she will be staying.

I get that growstuff. However only yesterday Savid Jared stated if she comes back here she’ll end up staying.

Oh well, no wonder she’s a happy little bunny. She said she’s ‘excited but nervous’ to be returning.