The Russian Report

Russia obvs.

Today’s headlines are shocking

Through the decades the U.K.’s security system has been the model for all other countries to follow. It was considered one most independent least politicised systems and the envy of the world.

That is until the past few years.

We now have a government who is ignoring the urgent and existential warnings given to them by the security services, resulting in the type of headlines we have seen over the past few days.

The government is now beginning to try to politicise the security service by interference from Cummings.

This will be one if the most damaging consequences that the U.K. will have ever suffered and put us on a par with Russia.

Johnson has be warned by all sides in the commons that this action must not be pursued. There has been no response from No 10, in fact I suspect that Cummings is ignoring the warnings.

Grannysue asked this question yesterday

Can anyone please explain to me the process of "dirty money"
But surely when the payment for these commodities arrives here it has to be "clean" money....checked etc.

There is one rule for us and another for international “investors”. A corrupt company that has both legal and illegal operations make it impossible to trace exactly which part of an investment is illegal. By the time it has passed through several companies finances, where it originated is lost. Think of it as a Mafia operation where the front people look legitimate but in reality are corrupt to varying degrees, some just turn a blind eye, some don’t ask questions, all the way down the line to serious criminals willing to kill to order.

You might think it is exaggeration, it’s not, there are many parts of the world where its everyday life. Much of it is fueled by the drugs trade, when you go on holiday to the Caribbean ask yourself where the money came from to build all those luxury resorts.

If the UK government is going to accept foreign investment part of that is going to be illegal, everyone knows that, they go through the motions of checking. That’s the London Laundromat, it’s very difficult to “prove” illegal activity because much of it is just turning a blind eye and any inducements are discrete.

So if say you are dealing in drugs as well as having a legitimate business. You will have money sloshing around that you can’t explain about its source.

It is dirty money. Money not declared for tax purposes is also a headache for those without a crooked accountant.

This can cover all sorts of clandestine income.

You need to make it “clean” by say purchasing property, or some other commodity that you can sell on and thereby apparently receiving income that appears legitimate.

That is a very simple explanation, but it does get very complicated following the money.

The authorities in this country can only do as much as their resources allow, even though they suspect a major issue.

The government controls the authorities resources.

Grant Shapps seeks to discredit the Russia Report

www.itv.com/news/2020-07-22/grant-shapps-seeks-to-discredit-russia-report-because-it-was-written-by-remainer-dominic-grieve

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Grant Shapps seeks to discredit the Russia Report

www.itv.com/news/2020-07-22/grant-shapps-seeks-to-discredit-russia-report-because-it-was-written-by-remainer-dominic-grieve

??? they are so stupid

Was that Grant Shapps or Michael Green?

He's no stranger to a bit of undercover work and dodgy financial dealings.

Shapps voted to remain too.

I don't think the Tories were in power when Roman Abramovich became one of the first Russian oligarchs to funnel money through London; he bought Chelsea in 2003, and Russian money continued under both Blair and Brown.

Also Alexander Litvinenko was killed in London in 2006

For anyone asking "who is Michael Green?" -

Shapps's use of the names Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox attracted controversy in 2012. He denied having used a pseudonym after entering parliament and, in 2014, threatened legal action against a constituent who had stated on Facebook that he had. In February 2015 he told LBC Radio presenter Shelagh Fogarty, "Let me get this absolutely clear ... I don't have a second job and have never had a second job while being an MP. End of story."

However, in March 2015, Shapps admitted to having had a second job whilst being an MP, and practising business under a pseudonym. In his admission, he stated that he had "over-firmly denied" having a second job. Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions. In March 2015, Dean Archer, the constituent previously threatened with legal action by Shapps, threatened Shapps with legal action.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Shapps

To me, Grant Shapps or whatever he is calling himself today is the best example of just what is wrong with this government, in real life, he would have been fired and prosecuted. Then of course we have the Home Secretary who was fired for what was legally treason.......and the Foreign Secretary who made such an absolutely lethal mess of the job that he was made PM.

.and the Foreign Secretary who made such an absolutely lethal mess of the job that he was made PM.

And slipped his leash to go partying with the Russians when Foreign Secretary

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7292639/Boris-Johnson-seen-barely-able-walk-partying-Russian-billionaires-villa.html

Nothing surprises me anymore Maizie this administration is rotten to the core. I don't even listen when the blonde liar is speaking on TV, I just don't believe anything he says. What a state to be in. Grant Shapps, P Patel, Johnson, that boy whose parents think he is at school but is actually pretending to be Education Secretary, Grayling.....so useless that even Tories mock him and then we have the backstabber Gove, full cast of Shakespearean villains.

More corruption

10 cabinet ministers have taken Russian money. The real reason Johnson stopped the report being published and tried to impose his own committee chair. Democracy undermined with willing compliance of Johnson because his government are on the Kremlin’s payroll. #RussianReport

The so-called Conservative and Unionist Party are either knowingly nor unknowingly assisting Putin in his efforts to undermine Western Democracy.

Step one - brexit

Step two - the breakup of the UK

But it's all OK because the Russians have poured millions into the Conservative Party and quite a lot of Tories will get even richer.

This - just how much are the British people prepared to tolerate? There is no way that Johnson is going to investigate Russian interference.

Bill Esterson
· Jul 22
Cummings pulling the strings on #RussiaReport. Conservative Party taking Russian money. Number 10 suppressing the report. Johnson "forgetting" his first duty is security of the British people. Prime Minister must investigate Kremlin's role in undermining our democracy.

These actions are traitorous.

Traitors all. But, but, but......the people got Brexit. I have said it before but I am more frightened of Brexit than of Covid19. I can shield from Covid19 but no amount of shielding will protect me from the stupidity of the British electorate who voted for this group of criminals and are prepared to overlook everything they do as long as they get their beloved Brexit. Well, I for one will take great pleasure in a resounding WE TOLD YOU SO, I am no longer prepared to be all nice and understanding about people's actions which will have a huge impact on my life.

GillT57

Traitors all. But, but, but......the people got Brexit. I have said it before but I am more frightened of Brexit than of Covid19. I can shield from Covid19 but no amount of shielding will protect me from the stupidity of the British electorate who voted for this group of criminals and are prepared to overlook everything they do as long as they get their beloved Brexit. Well, I for one will take great pleasure in a resounding WE TOLD YOU SO, I am no longer prepared to be all nice and understanding about people's actions which will have a huge impact on my life.

I feel very, very bitter about what is being imposed on the country. Only 37% of the total population voted for brexit and look what the rest of us are having to tolerate? On top of the most right wing treacherous government we’ve ever had.

I suppose regarding to the Russia report, although it is all very depressing and likely to get worse, I think what we can console ourselves over is the fact that at least we are now beginning to understand what is happening and how the vastly wealthy are behaving and buying our country and a political,party.

The main issue is that democracy cannot stand in the face of such gross inequality and the abuse of power.

Many GNetters may agree with you Wwm2 but how long will it take to persuade the readers of the rightwing tabloids?

varian

Many GNetters may agree with you Wwm2 but how long will it take to persuade the readers of the rightwing tabloids?

There will always be people who genuinely believe in the sort of values the Tory represents. Nothing will change them.

In 2008, under Gordon Brown, the Tier 1 visa programme was introduced, making it easier for foreign nationals to obtain British residency. Until the rules were changed in 2015, 705 of 3000 people taking advantage of the scheme were Russian. This is not a Tory problem, it is a Government problem, which began under Labour.
www.wired.co.uk/article/russia-report-golden-visas