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The Russian Report

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MaizieD Tue 21-Jul-20 13:05:52

The ISC report on Russian interference is out today. It doesn't point the finger of blame at individuals, I didn't realistically think that it would (though that might be in the unpublished Annexe). But in a way it is worse, it points the finger at the last few years of tory government and the Intelligence services.

This is the summary given to the media:

Basically the report says that we know that there is Russian interference. There was no investigation of Russian interference in the EU referendum because the government chose not to pursue it.

When you look at the amount of Russian money being laundered through City financial institutions, oligarchical investment in property, football clubs, newspapers etc. and the huge amounts of Russian money being donated to the tory party you begin to understand why tory governments weren't too keen on deeper investigation...

MaizieD Sat 01-Aug-20 17:58:38

Urmstongran

I can sleep easier tonight safe in the knowledge you good ladies are on the Russian case.
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That would be very foolish of you.

Urmstongran Sat 01-Aug-20 18:05:13

But restful.
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Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Aug-20 13:23:01

The report in picture form

varian Tue 04-Aug-20 15:24:03

Duncan Hames, Director of Policy at Transparency International UK, said:

“This report confirms Britain’s ongoing role as a ‘laundromat’ for dirty money and reputations and has major national security implications. Action needs to be taken urgently to root out illicit wealth and nefarious influence.

“The National Crime Agency should be properly resourced with the funds and powers to counter the threat posed by powerful individuals with suspicious wealth and links to hostile states. Those in the private sector should fulfil their duty as the first line of defence against dirty money, with firm penalties for those that fail to do this.

“Finally, parliamentary oversight and transparency should be strengthened to prevent MPs and peers from becoming unwitting agents of hostile states. Adopting these measures would ensure that Britain is more resilient in the face of hostile state action, making both our democracy and economy more secure.”

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 10:36:08

A Senate report into the links between the President and the Kremlin showed what was, to all intents and purposes, "a Russian spy at the heart of the Trump campaign".

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/evidence-report-russian-collusion/

POGS Thu 20-Aug-20 11:01:56

Varian

You appear to have a wide knowledge of this subject so can I ask you :-

What do you think so far about the released papers to the Durham Investigation?

What do you think about yesterday's 'guilty' plea by former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith?

Kevin Clinesmith yesterday, wednesday, was in federal court and pleaded guilty to ' falsifying ' a document as part of the bureau’s early-stage probe into whether President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign colluded with the Russian. government.

Kevin Clinesmith admitted to doctoring a CIA email the FBI used in 2017 when it applied to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to renew its application for a secret wiretap to monitor Carter Page.

Clinesmith was helping to prepare the application, and in doing so, he altered an email which originally stated that Carter Page was a government "source," as he had publicly claimed. However Clinesmith added words to make it appear that the government agency, which was later revealed to be the CIA, said that Page was "not a source," according to the Justice Department's information in the case.

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 11:16:57

The Durham Investigation: What We Know and What It Means

www.lawfareblog.com/durham-investigation-what-we-know-and-what-it-means

Sorry, POGS, you overestimate my knowledge of this but hope this article helps.

POGS Thu 20-Aug-20 16:57:37

varian

It is an interesting subject to follow and it gives other aspects issues that are not widely reported in the UK or on some networks/media in the US. Politics in the US is even more partisan than here as with the judiciary. It can be a farce at times.

Anybody interested would find it fascinating and the afore mentioned plea of guilty by FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith admitting falsifying /doctoring the FISA application is the first (possibly last?) criminal charge to be made re the Trump Campaign and taking office.

It is being called Obamagate in some quarters and obviously that is trashed in other quarters.

However the evidence thus far is in my opinion is quite damning but I await more information and watching more testimonies from the relevant parties such as Former FBI director James Comey.

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 18:17:08

On Tuesday, the Senate Intelligence Committee dropped a bombshell about Russia's interference in the 2016 election -- and its ongoing efforts to disrupt the 2020 contest as well.

edition.cnn.com/2020/08/19/politics/russia-investigation-fbi-paul-manafort-donald-trump-jr-donald-trump/index.html

varian Fri 21-Aug-20 19:41:09

A cross party group of MPs is threatening to sue Boris Johnson over his refusal to investigate Russian interference in our elections.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/21/mps-threaten-to-sue-boris-johnson-unless-he-acts-over-russian-meddling-in-uk-polls

varian Sat 22-Aug-20 13:42:13

Senate intelligence report warns of repeat of Russian interference in US election

edition.cnn.com/2020/08/19/politics/senate-intelligence-report-russia-2020/index