Why did Starmer settle out of court Give a grovelling apology and pay out six figure sum?

Apologies my above post was meant to be for jabberworks 18:03 post.

Indeed Grandad and people responded to it.

Who is "you"

Grandad Yes allegedly janeianworth. However, nothing has been brought to court in regard to the issue, and the last I read on those allegations, those who made them are now themselves under investigation.
Oh you mean John Sweeney, Ed Brown and others at the BBC?
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-41688280

.*......accept and support the new leadership.......*

Galaxy

You brought up lavery not me.

Galaxy Ian Lavery was mentioned in the Guardian Report on the McCluskey weekend interviews, that was all.

I seem to remember that Annie was heavily criticised to the point of bullying when she expressed feelings of dismay as the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn unfolded, to the extent that she was told to accept the leadership without criticism if she wished to remain an accepted Socialist! Surely people now who are criticising Kier Starmer should have a taste their own medicine, accept that the party is under new management, and accept the new leader unconditionally, as you advocated and expected Annie to do?!!

Devorgilla

Grany, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Unite pay out for a Squawkbox legal matter which, I believe, was lost. £2 million approximately I believe. Were the members consulted about that?

Do you mean the Turling case?

Unite certainly paid its own and Skwawkbox's fine and legal costs, but I don't know how much they were.

You brought up lavery not me.

Galaxy

Sorry if its inconvenient for you grandad. I am from lavery's neck of the woods so am fairly familiar with it all. And there was Ashington football club saga as well wasnt there, the list is endless. Never voted tory in my life. But also posess the understanding that in order for labour to be in power they have to persuade tory voters to vote for them .

I do not believe that even Ian Lavery himself has claimed that he is everyones perfect person.

However, what that has to do with the "cock up" of the Labour Party that Kier Starmer is making as its leader is beyond me?????????

Galaxy the actions of the police when Ian Lavery was arrested were questionable to say the least. You may not remember it but the way the miners were treated was appalling and I find it absolutely credible that as a politically active miner Ian Lavery would have been subjected to police harassment and arrested with little grounds. If there was murkiness it was certainly not on the miners' side.

Sorry if its inconvenient for you grandad. I am from lavery's neck of the woods so am fairly familiar with it all. And there was Ashington football club saga as well wasnt there, the list is endless. Never voted tory in my life. But also posess the understanding that in order for labour to be in power they have to persuade tory voters to vote for them .

I joined the Labour Party purely because of JC. He sold me a vision of equality and a fair society.
Now we have Starmer.

No matter what my opinion of Corbyn he was ( and proved twice) unelectable . Whether this was due to media vitriol or not he did not get elected and we have probably the worst government in history running the UK.

If we really want change and all the things Corbyn sold us then we must support Starmer. Nobody but nobody will vote for a fractured party.

Well, this getting rediculous now with these Tory supporters and there "attempted" muckraking.

Ian Lavery was convicted in 1985 for a "punch up" at a football match, and the Tories on the forum raise that now in this thread.

What a joke. ???

Sorry I got confused the NUM paid that one. So much murkiness it's hard to keep up.

The Cummings crisis (?!!), again! Grandad, with great respect, a great many prominent people broke lockdown including Stephen Kinnock MP. Ian Blackford SMP, even dear old Jeremy! as well as others! Why is Cummings a 'crisis' yet these and others are justified or just frowned upon, but not pursued as a crisis!

No his conviction for football hooliganism was though wasnt it.
Its not slagging off to raise concerns about the man who is complaining where labour party funds go. I believe the same funds paid his fine.

janeainsworth Quote [The one who, allegedly, helped himself to miners' compensation to pay off his mortgage.] End Quote

Yes allegedly janeianworth. However, nothing has been brought to court in regard to the issue, and the last I read on those allegations, those who made them are now themselves under investigation.

Some Tory supporters know no limits in their attempts to discredit persons on the left. We seem in Britain with the right in our politics to becoming near to the Trump-style antics of the United states.

That being "slag em off" rather than join any realistic debate.

Lavery, who was also shadow minister for trade unions under Corbyn, said: “What Len says is extremely important. I have had people asking me from Unite if it is right that members’ money is used to finance Keir’s legal challenges and pay compensation when the advice that the party allegedly had was that the party was in a very strong position to defend the claims.“People have got to be accountable and responsible. You cannot expect unions to pump millions of pounds into the party if the party isn’t accountable.”

Ian Lavery - that upstanding exemplar of financial and personal integrity.
The one who, allegedly, helped himself to miners' compensation to pay off his mortgage.

Crikey the day I take moral guidance from Ian Lavery would be the day I might want to examine my moral compass.

Starmer is proving to be nothing short of a disaster in regard to his promise of bringing unity to the Parliamentary Labour Party(PLP). His sacking of Rebeca Long-Bailey could have taken place with no great ramifications in the light of what RLB had carried out. However, his failure to replace her with someone of her same political image entirely excluded the left of the PLP from the shadow cabinet.

Starmer has now compounded the above by apologising and paying compensation to a group of Labour party employees that lawyers had advised that the PLP had a good case to resist and fight in the courts

The matter of that apology and payment was not even placed on any agenda of the National Executive Committee where those who represented the trade unions and other affiliate organisations could have had an input into the issue.

Starmer has seemed to have forgotten that the Labour Party is an integral sector of the whole Labour movement of Great Britain. In that, the PLP are bound under its constitution to discuss all significant matters with that wider body and be inclusive of all sectors of the movement.

All the above combined with Starmer's "no show, no action" throughout the Cummings crisis has now brought about a large question mark over his leadership, and that Len McCluskey has been articulating in his interviews over the last few days.

Grany...saying ‘the Tories on GN’ is just as silly as saying
‘The Labour voters on GN’......they are on a wide spectrum.
I ( and possibly lots of others on GN) said from the outset that Johnson wasn’t the right choice for Leader, but since I’m not a member of any political party, I didn’t get a vote.
Since then his decisions have been patchy, but on the whole, especially since he spent time in an ICU, he has done better than I thought he would do.
Time will tell ( probably another two years) as to how well he does as PM.

MaizieD

I'm loving all these tory voters coming onto this thread to tell us how the Labour Party should be run...

Do you think they intend to vote Labour at the next election if Starmer does as they tell him?

No, I really don’t believe you are ‘loving it’ at all.....probably
Put out that anyone who voted Conservative is daring to comment about the LP is more the mark.
However, voters of any political party ( or no party) are free to comment on these pages.
Until you and others who think like you accept that Starmer
Is the acceptable face of Labour for many people, including some who have voted for other parties in the past ...and that
Corbyn and the far left are very much over, then you will go on pining for something you will never now have, and in truth were never likely to have.

No one is telling anyone how the Labour party should be run, just expressing surprise that the leader is clearly not allowed to lead as he sees fit, and is threatened if does attempt to do so!

Apologies, misspelt Skwawkbox.