Gransnet forums

News & politics

lockdown nonsense

(80 Posts)
biba70 Sun 02-Aug-20 09:46:28

So in Manchester, you can now be sacked if you refuse to go to work too close to someone - and you can be fined £100 for sitting next to that someone in your home - and then get official Money Off vouchers to go and sit with anyone in a crowded pub or restaurant.

All our Muslim friends who were stopped from celebrating Eid yesterday with their families should have gone to the pub then- sorted ;)

Jabberwok Sun 02-Aug-20 13:12:18

I look forward to it!!!!!!??
Because in a restaurant people are properly regulated as they are in Pubs, whereas at home? If the eight cars on the drive are to be believed, who knows how many are gathering!

MerylStreep Sun 02-Aug-20 13:10:37

biba70
why should people be able to sit indoors in a restaurant but not in their own home
Because numbers in restaurants and pubs ( mostly) are limited. Inviting the world and his wife into your home isn't.
It's numbers.

biba70 Sun 02-Aug-20 13:00:32

Easter was not 'cancelled' with a couple of hours notice- it was in the middle of lock-down.

The point made in the OP is that if a new lock-down was required for some areas- it should have included the pubs too. As Growstuff says, it is the inconsistency which adds up to hypocrisy. Why should people be able to sit indoors in a restaurant, but not in their own home?

Illte Sun 02-Aug-20 12:55:10

Thank you Jabberwok. You can have a piece of my cake ?

Jabberwok Sun 02-Aug-20 12:50:11

Canberra of course! After all,they must be to blame,

MerylStreep Sun 02-Aug-20 12:49:48

biba70
I suggest you read Nazia Afzals article 'No more hiding from the truth ( covid)
He is 100% behind the government. No doubt he and his family will receive more death threats as they always do when he speaks out against his own community.

Rufus2 Sun 02-Aug-20 12:39:07

Difference between us and them is that they are not constantly slagging off their government
Pardon!? We have seven of them! Which one do you have in mind!? hmm
OoRoo

growstuff Sun 02-Aug-20 12:38:06

grannysyb

If the government had let Eid go ahead and there had been a sharp rise in cases they would have been blamed for not taking action. I think on the whole that they haven't handled things well, but I think in this case they were right.

Did the government have the courtesy to inform Muslim leaders what they were intending to do?

growstuff Sun 02-Aug-20 12:36:42

The problem in Manchester is that the new "lockdown" is inconsistent. People can't meet in each other's houses, but even those who have been shielded have been told to go back to work, possibly entailing a journey by public transport. They can go to a pub, claim their money off voucher for eating out and go shopping. Children will be expected to return to school next month and people can go on (and return from) holiday. Trafford, which has one of the highest infection rates, has a relatively low BAME population, but Muslims feel that they have been targeted.

My daughter lives in Manchester and didn't know what was going on until she woke up the next morning. Even now, she's not 100% sure what the law is.

grannysyb Sun 02-Aug-20 12:34:53

If the government had let Eid go ahead and there had been a sharp rise in cases they would have been blamed for not taking action. I think on the whole that they haven't handled things well, but I think in this case they were right.

Jabberwok Sun 02-Aug-20 12:30:06

Illte! ??????! Note, No Panda!

Jabberwok Sun 02-Aug-20 12:28:10

It's so easy to mock! The situation with this virus changes from day to day making it impossible to have a long term plan. The government were heavily criticised originally for being slow off the mark and dithering, and are now criticised and sneered at for over-reacting , can't win!
Australia, that beacon of virtue where the virus was concerned has been hit hard again with Victoria in virtual lockdown! Who would have thought, all those lessons that idiot old us should have learnt from them clearly need another think!! Difference between us and them is that they are not constantly slagging off their government!

glammanana Sun 02-Aug-20 12:25:14

EV At least your's arrived in one piece mine came by Letterbox Flowers and Poppy ate the box so I was not impressed with my little doggy friend xx see you soon

Illte Sun 02-Aug-20 12:18:21

And my birthday.

Which should have been a National celebration

?????

There's that damn panda again..

EllanVannin Sun 02-Aug-20 12:11:19

Mothers Day was a bit of a washout too as my flowers were handed to me through an open window sad

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Aug-20 12:02:32

The OP has been lifted from a twitter post!

Kate1949 Sun 02-Aug-20 11:59:17

GrannyGravy I think people go by the pictures in the press of all the people crammed outside the pubs in town centres. We love our local pub and were very dubious at first but very few people are venturing in there. We felt safer than we would in a shop.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Aug-20 11:57:35

Illte not in their churches or with families as it fell whilst the UK was in total lockdown.

Illte Sun 02-Aug-20 11:55:11

All Christians were able to celebrate Easter.

Oh there I go again ????

Look at this nice emoji I've found.

Oh there's more!

It's because I typed in Easter?????

Not sure about the panda.

As silly as this thread deserves

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Aug-20 11:48:42

Many Christians were not able to celebrate Easter either.

EllanVannin Sun 02-Aug-20 11:48:31

My thoughts too Illte, but tuff luck grin

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Aug-20 11:47:47

As for Muslims not celebrating Eid yesterday. I suggest you ask the family of the policeman hospitalised in London last night after 300 Muslim youths gathered in Ilford Road, when asked to move on they turned on the Police!

Illte Sun 02-Aug-20 11:42:27

Oh, I wasn't going to comment because obviously started by someone who just wanted to get a rise with several stupid comments.

I'm so tired of people like that.

But there we are. OP got what he/she wanted.

And we can't use the T word.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Aug-20 11:39:06

Kate1949

You can't just go to the pub and sit with anyone. We went to our local last night. Contact details were taken at the door. We had to sanitise our hands. They have a one way system. No groups of more than five. Our group all had to enter at the same time. No one is allowed to join you at your table. No standing was allowed except for going to the bar or the toilet. We (and most other people) ordered from an app. The tables are spaced apart. Once every table is full, no one else is allowed in. If the pub is full, they limit the time you are allowed to stay. It was very well organised.

Totally agree that is the same here.

Grany Sun 02-Aug-20 11:37:36

Johnson telling us what to do