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Trump has finally lost it.....

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Luckygirl Tue 04-Aug-20 22:40:47

.......anyone see his interview on the news? His insanity must now be obvious to all - surely no-one will vote for him? Just not possible............

varian Thu 06-Aug-20 17:41:31

In the USA the republicans use "liberal" as a term of abuse.

Dorsetcupcake61 Thu 06-Aug-20 17:39:13

Handmaid Tale. Margaret Attwood. It was written in the 1980s. I re read it last year and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Aug-20 17:37:31

I’ll google it.

Got it

Margaret Atwood

The Handmaids Tale

varian Thu 06-Aug-20 17:37:07

I am a long- standing member of the Liberal Democrats.

Although I am probably to the left of the party, I started off as a member of the Liberal Party, whereas others of our generation might have started off as members of the SDP.

In the 1970s we returned from living abroad and settled in an area where there were only two political parties - the Conservatives and the Liberals. My husband had been active in the Liberals at university in the early sixties, whereas I had been a supporter of the Labour Party.

In the area where we settled, and still live, the Labour Party is virtually non-existant. The District Council has been LibDem for at least thirty-five years and they have done a very good job. The Countty Council has passed between Conservatives and LibDems and of course the LibDems have done a much better job than the Conservatives. The same is true of our MPs. We had an excellent LibDem MP for eighteen years until 2015 when he was succeeded by an appalling ERG member.

Unless, and until, we can achieve electoral reform based on PR, many voters have to vote pragmatically, as I first did when I cast my vote for the Liberal Party. Now when I cast my vote for the Liberal Democrats I do so on the basis of principle.

Hithere Thu 06-Aug-20 17:33:35

Sorry, not familiar with that Canadian author.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Aug-20 17:27:07

Hithere

Whitewavemark

Big time. That is how it feels as a woman living in the US.

So that is why the series (oh god senior moment) Canadian author about women’s suppression, seemed to so much touch a nerve with women, in the USA ?

Hithere Thu 06-Aug-20 17:18:41

Whitewavemark

Big time. That is how it feels as a woman living in the US.

varian Thu 06-Aug-20 16:59:32

Liberalism has absolutely nothing in common with neo-liberalism or, for that matter with libertarianism,

I wonder how many people, even those who are interested in politics, ever understand these political terms.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Aug-20 16:39:53

Baggs

I thought the Democrats were supposed to be the liberals in the US. I've never associated liberalism of any kind with Republicans.

Mind you, it could be that what is called neo-liberalism isn't liberalism at all.

Exactly baggs

Baggs Thu 06-Aug-20 16:38:46

I thought the Democrats were supposed to be the liberals in the US. I've never associated liberalism of any kind with Republicans.

Mind you, it could be that what is called neo-liberalism isn't liberalism at all.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Aug-20 16:34:28

rosecarmel

"Donald Trump's rallies enacted how Trump and his followers would like the country to be. They were, in essence, identity festivals.

Trump succeeded by providing a categorical grid—a clear definition of groups and intergroup relations—that allowed many Americans to make sense of their lived experiences.

Within this framework, he established himself as a prototypical American and a voice for people who otherwise felt voiceless."

www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-rsquo-s-appeal-what-psychology-tells-us/

He uses fear rather than facts, he comes across as caring, using soothing tactics to disarm people then stab them in the back once relaxed-

He's teaching his supporters to do the same-

That was such a depressing article rosecarmel but I could quite see it happening in the U.K. given the way people are now behaving.

The world has gone mad.

Greeneyedgirl Thu 06-Aug-20 16:18:23

He’s the ugly face of Neo-liberalism on steroids, and come to that so is B Johnson.

Urmstongran Thu 06-Aug-20 16:06:43

It will all get decided on at the polls in November. Who knows - he might even get re-elected to MAGA?

After all, our Brexit polls weren’t accurate.
Nor the huge majority that Boris got.

Next onslaught for him - the release of his banking transactions.

He’s getting a tough ride. The Democrats are throwing everything into the mix. They must be worried (a bit).

Baggs Thu 06-Aug-20 16:05:23

"finally lost it"?

I thought Trump was always regarded as bonkers.

rosecarmel Thu 06-Aug-20 16:04:23

"Donald Trump's rallies enacted how Trump and his followers would like the country to be. They were, in essence, identity festivals.

Trump succeeded by providing a categorical grid—a clear definition of groups and intergroup relations—that allowed many Americans to make sense of their lived experiences.

Within this framework, he established himself as a prototypical American and a voice for people who otherwise felt voiceless."

www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-rsquo-s-appeal-what-psychology-tells-us/

He uses fear rather than facts, he comes across as caring, using soothing tactics to disarm people then stab them in the back once relaxed-

He's teaching his supporters to do the same-

Blinko Thu 06-Aug-20 16:04:00

This is the best of the best....gawd help us all!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Aug-20 16:01:23

So is there a movement for white male privilege and supremacy?

Hithere Thu 06-Aug-20 15:37:18

He stands for white male privilege
He stands for white supremacy
For starters

Whitewavemark2 Thu 06-Aug-20 15:10:14

rosecarmel

People no longer support Donald Trump the man- They support what he stands for, forming a movement that's much bigger than Trump, and will last longer than he does-

So many people thought he would be a flash in the pan-

I can never understand what he stands for. He doesn’t make am awful lot of sense.

varian Thu 06-Aug-20 15:00:53

What exactly does he stand for rosecarmel?

rosecarmel Thu 06-Aug-20 14:51:43

People no longer support Donald Trump the man- They support what he stands for, forming a movement that's much bigger than Trump, and will last longer than he does-

So many people thought he would be a flash in the pan-

Greeneyedgirl Thu 06-Aug-20 14:09:46

The whole political situation both here and US fills me with deep despair. How much worse can things get before Trump’s many supporters will see him for what he is?

The extremely worrying aspect is that we will be dependent and at the mercy of the US for much of our our trade and the influence they will have over our NHS for example.

I fear we will not be taking back control any time soon.

Do BJ supporters think he would fare better in any similar and in depth interview I wonder? He doesn’t seem that keen on interviews.

annodomini Thu 06-Aug-20 12:52:37

Not only are children not immune, but there have been a number of cases of young children developing Kawasaki-like symptoms believed to be a side effect of Covid19. That can be very nasty and I believe there as been at least one death.

varian Thu 06-Aug-20 12:39:12

Video resurfaces of Trump struggling to vote in person in 2004 as he ramps up attacks on mail-in voting

edition.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/trump-vote-by-mail-provisional-ballot-2004-video/index.html

Another video everyone who has ever believed Trump should watch.

Furret Thu 06-Aug-20 12:35:26

Fact check.

Children are not immune.
They can spread the virus as easily as anyone else.
They are more likely to have a very mild case or even be asymptomatic.