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Political Correctness or just ridiculous

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Firecracker123 Thu 13-Aug-20 14:25:05

A bra not for the easily offended it seems.

Granny23 Thu 13-Aug-20 23:02:53

On a more serious note, I am reminded of an incident when I was a naive child, which I have never forgotten. I was playing with two of my friends, both slightly older and taller than me. They were turning somersaults over a 3 barred farm gate and laughing at my failed attempts to do the same. In retaliation I shouted at them that it was "ill bred" to be turning somersaults and showing their knickers for all the world to see. They called me all sorts of names and were really upset. One was crying. They ran off and left me saying they would never play with me again. I went home alone and told my big sister what had happened. She pointed out to me that both my friends were illegitimate, a term I did not understand, though I did know that one girl was being brought up by an Aunt and Uncle rather than a Mum and Dad, while the other had a Mum and a Granny. (This was just after the war and there were many children in the same situation)

Once I understood I was horrified at the hurt I had inadvertently caused. I had used "ill bred" thinking it meant a lack of good manners or decorum. I certainly learned that it is for the offended person to decide whether the words used are offensive to them, rather than for me to say that my words were not offensive because I did not intend them to be so.

Jane10 Thu 13-Aug-20 22:13:51

grin

Chewbacca Thu 13-Aug-20 22:08:32

I'm indebted to you NanKate. I'll fire off an email to them this minute.

NanKate Thu 13-Aug-20 22:03:22

Chewbacca to answer your question complaints go to ‘Ghostbusters’ and the French version of ‘AA’.

Chewbacca Thu 13-Aug-20 21:32:57

Right..... Apart from the sheer size of the knickers and bras which was offensive enough for anyone there are 2 bras and 2 pair of knickers that are called Midnight and Chartreuse. I'm scared of the dark and I'm a tee totaller. Who do I complain to?

Chewbacca Thu 13-Aug-20 21:18:17

I'm just going to nip upstairs and rifle through my knickers and bra drawer to see if there's anything there that offends me. Back in a sec.......

Elegran Thu 13-Aug-20 21:11:56

I'd noticed that, MissA. I have wondered whether there is a bit of jumping onto bandwagons.

MissAdventure Thu 13-Aug-20 21:08:44

I really think all of this is marketing.
There have been a few threads about different/ shocking/ distasteful ads.

(So bad that I can't remember any of them now)

lemongrove Thu 13-Aug-20 21:04:30

I bet the tobacco coloured bra sells loads now after the free publicity......I must have a look at it ( I only like bras with lace though, so...)

Chewbacca Thu 13-Aug-20 21:02:30

Fair point Elegran.

lemongrove Thu 13-Aug-20 21:02:11

varian

The term "political correctness" is a meme of right-wing tabloids and those who use this term are often brexiter, Tory voting, climate change denying upholders of a return to the "good old days" when upstarts knew their place and this talk of equality was not allowed.

I was waiting for nonsense like this to be spouted.?

Jane10 Thu 13-Aug-20 20:55:17

Elegran how could you?!!

Elegran Thu 13-Aug-20 20:19:01

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annodomini Thu 13-Aug-20 20:05:39

I'm wearing a M&S bra in a dark red colour and have no idea what it is called. Nor do I care.

Starblaze Thu 13-Aug-20 19:44:36

varian

The term "political correctness" is a meme of right-wing tabloids and those who use this term are often brexiter, Tory voting, climate change denying upholders of a return to the "good old days" when upstarts knew their place and this talk of equality was not allowed.

Yep, just made up nonsense by the very people it upsets... those who want to share their very important opinions whether it upsets anyone or not because very and important and opinion.... Apparently

I mean, my opinions are reaching what? 30 odd people maybe? That's not really very or important and I don't expect many to care what I think about much of anything really lol

Jaxjacky Thu 13-Aug-20 19:39:02

I am getting rather fed up with people actively looking for things to complain about and either at the time or subsequently, receiving publicity about it. The majority of people in the world don’t wake up thinking they’d like to offend/hurt someone today.
To me, so many are so scared of offending some person, or breaking some pc taboo, the real issues/offences/injustices are not called out. How very, very sad.

Firecracker123 Thu 13-Aug-20 19:33:39

19:30varian

The term "political correctness" is a meme of right-wing tabloids and those who use this term are often brexiter, Tory voting, climate change denying upholders of a return to the "good old days" when upstarts knew their place and this talk of equality was not allowed.

I bet your glad you got that off your chest varian, no pun intended lol.

varian Thu 13-Aug-20 19:30:28

The term "political correctness" is a meme of right-wing tabloids and those who use this term are often brexiter, Tory voting, climate change denying upholders of a return to the "good old days" when upstarts knew their place and this talk of equality was not allowed.

Ellianne Thu 13-Aug-20 19:03:55

I am convinced there are many people like her scouring shops and websites desperately looking for something to be outraged at.
And don't they always look so glam and dressed up when they get their photo in the papers, JE?
grin

Starblaze Thu 13-Aug-20 18:53:07

Lucca I always find it sad that women who are so used to micro aggressions and all the ridiculous ways we have been insulted and overlooked for so long, just don't get how taking out even the smallest issues is a right step in a positive direction where no woman feels "less".

Anyway, off for a cuppa tea and put it out of my mind.

janeainsworth Thu 13-Aug-20 18:46:05

An assumption is being made, both by the woman who complained and by those who have written in support of her, that the brown bras were intended to be worn only by women who have brown skin.
If that were the case, then calling the colour after a plant which in the past had connections with slavery could be considered offensive.
But brown bras aren’t exclusively worn or marketed to women (or men for that matter) with brown skin.
Nor are women with brown skin compelled to wear a bra whose colour they take exception to, or indeed any bra at all.
I have in my personal bra collection ivory coloured bras, nude bras, deep pink bras, a burgundy coloured bra, a teal blue bra, a slate gray bra, and several black bras. I don’t at the moment have a brown bra, but that’s only because my favourite brand doesn’t stock them.
Naturally I have matching knickers.

I’m sure that offence could be taken if necessary about any of those colours being used for items of underwear, if one was really determined.

Lucca Thu 13-Aug-20 18:42:35

Ellianne

So is fudge (sugar = obesity) bad for you and one of the darkish colours.

Ok I give in.

Smileless2012 Thu 13-Aug-20 18:08:24

Sadly, there are still those who have no problem being offensive to others and don't always rely on racist comments to do so.

lemongrove Thu 13-Aug-20 18:07:01

Yes Smileless I hope so.

Smileless2012 Thu 13-Aug-20 18:05:35

Your post demonstrates just how ridiculous this is getting lemongrove.