Gransnet forums

News & politics

A Week in tory ending 13th August

(65 Posts)
MaizieD Thu 13-Aug-20 22:39:56

'Russ in Cheshire's' latest update on what has been happening in the UK

Start

1. The govt said they had to "balance the nation’s health with our economy", and in that respect, they have succeeded: both are evenly balanced as the worst in the G7

2. So Boris Johnson went on holiday. See if you even notice.
3. Britain’s death toll, pretty much the worst per-capita in the developed world, rose again to the levels it was 2 months ago

4. Fortunately, the govt solved those deaths by the simple expedient of publishing the figures on a different website and not telling anybody
5. A mere 6 months into the Covid-19 crisis, the govt advertised for a "Head of Pandemic Preparedness" with a salary of – honest to god – less than mine. And I do colouring-in for a living.

6. In Feb the govt said "nobody will go hungry as a result of Covid-19"
7. The FSA said 7.8 million Britons had skipped meals or eaten unsafe food as a result of skyrocketing “food insecurity” since the outbreak

8. So the govt is planning to stop the furlough scheme to force us to go back to jobs that don’t exist
9. Britain’s GDP fell 21%, more than twice as much as Germany or the USA, and even more than Spain, which we keep telling ourselves is doing terribly, whilst avoiding mirrors

10. And an IFS study showed UK can expect to be permanently 9% poorer if we have no Brexit deal by Nov
11. So naturally, Liz Truss paused a £14bn trade deal with Japan over concerns for the fate of Stilton, which is 0.007% of the deal. But she’d made a big deal over Brexit saving Britain’s vast and vitally important Stilton industry, and everything else comes second

12. Liz Truss suggested increasing the speed limit to 80mph could be the solution to all our economic woes

13. And then The Express – yes, them – suddenly discovered the USA favour a deal with the EU over a deal with the UK because, and this will shock you, the EU is much bigger
14. Boris Johnson insisted the central Test and Trace system was "still world-beating" after it traced only 56% of cases

15. Local councils set up their own tracing in Lancashire, Liverpool and W Yorkshire and traced 98%. "World-beating" isn’t even beating Blackburn council
16. NHS Providers said Test and Trace is “not fit for purpose, let alone world class”

17. A month after knighting Sir Tom for raising £32m, the govt gave 10x as much to company valued at £100, and with no expertise in producing PPE, for 50m masks we can’t use
18. By one of those massively rare coincidences that happen 9 times out of 10, the owner is a close friend Liz Truss

19. And then it was revealed the govt didn’t just sign one inexplicable contract with a useless and inexperienced supplier: they had at least 20 contracts
20. One of the contracts is for £108m, paid to a pest control company with assets of just £18,000. The company is now using money from that contract to threaten legal action against a lawyer who asked what it is doing with the money. I kid you not.
21. Education news, and in the beginning, the govt opposed adjusting A-level grades

22. Then top fireplace salesman and irony no-fly-zone Gavin Williamson said “The danger is that pupils will be over-promoted into jobs that are beyond their competence”
23. And then the govt introduced a “moderating” algorithm to adjust grades

24. Then the Tories told the Scottish govt to abandon its own adjusted grades

25. And when the Scottish govt did Tories had asked, the Tories said it was a disgrace and they should resign
26. Then multiple Tories called for Gavin Williamson to do exactly the same thing

27. The Assoc of Headteachers said the govt’s handling of this is "a rolling disaster"

28. Things are moving fast. But not as fast as the contents Gavin Williamson’s small intestine
29. The govt’s algorithm awarded twice as many grade increases to pupils from private schools as it did to state schools.

30. And an Education Policy Institute report found wealthy pupils get 1/3 more funds from the "levelling up" budget as poor pupils get
31. Scrupulous honesty news: property developers gave the Tories £11m in the last year, and then, miraculously, the Tories relaxed rules on planning permission

32. Amongst the regulations they tried to scrap was the one requiring dwellings to have at least 1 window
33. Robert Jenrick said "you can trust me on housing", 3 weeks after he admitted wrongdoing in helping a Tory donor avoid £45m tax

34. To be fair, he then denied admitting wrongdoing, even though he had admitted it on camera, and that's always the mark of a man you can trust
35. The Royal Institute of British Architects said the reforms were "shameful" and would "lead to a generation of slum housing"

36. Housing charity Shelter said the reforms "will mean the end of affordable housing" and force more than 1m people onto housing waiting lists
37. But Priti Patel said Syrian refugees were the real cause of our national housing crisis

38. She asserted that people claiming asylum in the UK was illegal, which it absolutely is not, under any circumstances, ever
39. Then she appointed an excitingly-titled "Clandestine Channel Threat Commander" tasked with, amongst other impossible things, pushing migrant boats back out to sea, in direct contravention of international law and British Navy regulations
40. A leak from inside the MoD said Patel’s plans were "completely potty", "inappropriate, impractical and unnecessary” and had "more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese". I’ll put them down as a 'maybe'

41. Priti Patel then had an argument about this with some ice-cream
42. James Cleverley, a hugely successful one-man campaign against nominative determinism, joined in, but confused "virtue signalling" with "obeying the law"

43. Tory MP Sir Edward Leigh had a solution: "We should never have lost Calais in 1558. Why not take it back?"
44. Then Sir Edward, a vocal, life-long Brexit fan, said we should pay the EU to manage migration for us, but it has been very warm, and he does look like a man who has been in the sun far too long
45. Speaking of Brexit, it was revealed Tate and Lyle, Tory donors and No Deal cheerleaders, will gain £73m if we get No Deal, because they can import more of the very unhealthy sugar they supply

46. So obviously, the govt started a TV campaign telling us to stop being fat
47. The govt condemned the Russian state, which said it had a vaccine that hasn’t been approved by regulators

48. And then it was revealed UK’s much-vaunted 90-minute rapid Covid test has not been approved by regulators
49. The govt said children would be safe if we re-opened schools

50. And then Boris Johnson said he would "bulldoze schools" in which there were Covid outbreaks, which seems a smidge excessive if Covid can’t spread in schools
51. The govt said there was no evidence any children had caught Covid in school. Schools are closed, so it would be difficult right now, but let’s not try to apply logic any more

52. An international study found pupils over 12 are just as susceptible to Covid-19 as any adult
53. Scientists called for routine testing of teachers and pupils

54. The Schools Minister said no because, I’m sorry, I have no idea why the Schools Minister said no, and neither does he. People asked. He didn’t have an answer.
55. And then Immigration minister Chris Philp asked if he could re-record a live interview, after he forgot what country he was from

I’m sure it’ll be fine.

End

twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1293945209760423936

Grany Tue 18-Aug-20 10:56:27

Recently, trade minister Liz Truss was in Washington, negotiating a toxic trade deal with President Donald Trump’s administration. This deal could be devastating to our NHS, food, climate and more, and right now our MPs have no right to know what is even being discussed.

We might be able to change that, but we need your help.

A new law on the UK’s trade policy is going through Parliament at the moment which must be changed to bring about more transparency, democracy and accountability over the way the UK does its trade deals.

The Trade Bill is about to move on to the House of Lords. Will you write a letter to a member of the House of Lords to tell them how important this is?

You might have heard that this bill fails to protect the NHS. That’s true, but that’s not all it fails to do.

Without fixing this Trade Bill, we will have no way of stopping toxic trade deals, or ensuring our elected representatives have a say over what goes into deals that affect us in so many ways. Deals like that with the US will threaten food standards, hand over more power to tech giants like Amazon and drastically undermine the UK’s climate commitments under the Paris Agreement. We would have no way of keeping ISDS – corporate courts – out of our trade deals.

We have drafted a template email in our online tool, but please feel free to adapt it to voice your biggest concerns related to the absence of scrutiny of our trade deals – whether they are ISDS, food standards, the impact of our trade deals on Global South countries, or the NHS and public services.

secure.waronwant.org/page/65752/donate/1?en_chan=tw&locale=en-GB&ea.tracking.id=twitter&en_ref=150365925

trisher Tue 18-Aug-20 09:25:30

I assume that Starmer will be speaking out loudly about this then??

Iam64 Tue 18-Aug-20 08:55:40

I fear we are becoming beyond being shocked by this government's behaviour. Dido Harding is a tory peer with no qualifications to run the body that will replace PHE. Its jobs for the gang isn't it.

Grany Tue 18-Aug-20 08:16:01

Dido Harding is a Tory peer & ran discredited, centralised test & trace. She has been appointed to run the body which will replace Public Health England (PHE).

She is married to Conservative Party Member of Parliament John Penrose, who sits on the advisory board of think tank 1828 which calls for "the NHS to be replaced by an insurance system and for Public Health England to be scrapped. Join the dots.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 17-Aug-20 23:00:06

Anyone know what qualifications Dido Harding has to run the new health agency, that has not yet been set up nor appears to want the best person for the job.

Another disaster waiting to happen. Is it even legal?

What a joke.

Grandad1943 Sat 15-Aug-20 14:17:30

MaizieD, in regard to your post @13:18 today, why should anyone wish to explain their views to you when you then make post towards them in the manner of the above.

No one (especially me) has accused Starmer of being Tory lite. However, as Len McCluskey has advised no one in the Labour movement is aware of where the party is politically heading at this point in time as Starmer seems not to divulge what his thinking is to anyone in the broader movement.

In the above, his actions without explanation has caused ever wider divisions to open up in the party and broader movement, and that is not the performance of a good leader.

As McCluskey stated, Starmer, must not take anything for granted in regard to the affiliated membership, and that is very true and genuine advice.

Starblaze Sat 15-Aug-20 13:28:27

moggie please get yourself referred to a food bank! We are feeling the pinch too with my husband still furloughed but not to the point of going without meals. That's terrible

moggie57 Sat 15-Aug-20 13:25:58

grocery shopping gone sky high .am a lot poorer....yes i have a large breakfast of weetabix and fruit(oat milk) then water for lunch.... 2 litres ,dinner none .(maybe a banana) tea jacket potato and salad. toppings change from tuna/cheese/carrot.... managed to get 3 corgettes for 25p .so tonights tea will be grilled courgettes..oh and a tin of tomatoes that a neighbour gave me....

MaizieD Sat 15-Aug-20 13:18:16

I don''t particularly want to discuss it, Grandad; I really want to understand why Starmer is viewed as tory-lite.

I understand that his actions so far are leading you to this conclusion. I also understand that he is frustrating many left wingers because he's not breathing hell fire about whatever the tories do.

But I don't have any evidence that he is antipathetic to the policies set out in the last manifesto. That would be more convincing.

But of course many on this forum do not wish to see such matters really debated, and just wish to see all indulge in Starmer worship.

Snidey comments like this are playground stuff IMO. They alienate people, too.

Grandad1943 Sat 15-Aug-20 12:53:51

MaizieD

How did I guess I'd get an answer from Grandad ? grin

With an unnecessary 'parting shot'...

You requested that forum members give you their views on Starmer MaizieD, I did.

You can engage with those views in a realistic manner or just post one line no consequence posts. That I believe is what it at the very base of the problems in the Labour Party under Starmer's leadership.

Many do not wish to discuss all that has happened in the Labour Movement and how the problems brought about can be resolved.

It has been the right in the Labour Party that has brought it to the edge of the financial abyss. Perhaps, therefore, it is understandable why they do not wish to discuss that matter.

paddyanne Sat 15-Aug-20 12:33:12

The TORIES didn't tell Scotland to adjust anything,Education is a devolved matter and outwith WM's powers.Scottish education is and always has been a different animal from Englands .The FM clearly said on the day the resultys came out.if she had got these resslts she would be standing alongside the rest of the stustudents and appealing BUT she said they would get it sorted and it was.
John Swinney met with the SQA and the downgraded results were dismissed in favour of teacher predictions.

MaizieD Sat 15-Aug-20 12:31:14

How did I guess I'd get an answer from Grandad ? grin

With an unnecessary 'parting shot'...

quizqueen Sat 15-Aug-20 12:31:02

I really couldn't be bothered to read all that left wing drivel. If that's what the country had wanted, they would have voted for it at the last election!

Iam64 Sat 15-Aug-20 12:27:34

Maybe those who constantly criticise Starmer and yearn for the return of the Hopeless One need to consider whether they truly want this country to continue to be run by the Conservative party.

Grandad1943 Sat 15-Aug-20 12:24:40

MaizieD

^Remains to be seen how Starmer will do^

This is what is bugging me. It does remain to be seen.

But in the meantime it's just being assumed that Starmer is tory-lite. I'm not sure why. Perhaps someone could explain..

The problem is that the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) is part of the whole Labour movement of Great Britain. Starmer has preceded since his election as if the Labour Party is not part of such.

By example, excluding all on the left of the party with the exception of Long-Bailey from the shadow cabinet.

Sacking Long-Bailey from that position and not replacing her with someone from the left of the PLP.

Giving way to very large compensation claims without consulting the National Executive Committee or the trade unions who will be expected to fund that expenditure and other claims and prosecutions in the pipeline.

Starmer must come to realise that he has to bring the whole labour movement with him if he is not to see continued factional conflict throughout the movement which will make the PLP unelectable into the future.

Tony Blair was a master when first elected as leader of the PLP in bringing all onboard and in that making fundamental changes to the structure and policies of the whole movement. In later years Blair and Brown lost that skill to bring all with them and we all know how that ended.

However, Starmer must look back and learn from how Blair achieved what he did in his early leadership years, for if not disaster is staring him in the face.

But of course many on this forum do not wish to see such matters really debated, and just wish to see all indulge in Starmer worship.

MaizieD Sat 15-Aug-20 12:20:47

Sorry but what a strange thing to say Sussexborn.?

Is this a name change, then, Lucca?

There are some posters I never expect much that makes sense from...

Lucca Sat 15-Aug-20 12:18:06

Kamiso

MaizeD. Do you ever feel you have too much time on your hands? Do you actually have steam coming out of your ears? It can’t be a healthy way to live.

Sorry but what a strange thing to say Sussexborn.?

MaizieD Sat 15-Aug-20 11:58:40

Kamiso

MaizeD. Do you ever feel you have too much time on your hands? Do you actually have steam coming out of your ears? It can’t be a healthy way to live.

What brought that on?

Kamiso Sat 15-Aug-20 11:58:02

Where did Grandad1943 make a malicious post? I was surprised at your statement so went back to double check and could only see that he didn’t concur with your opinion. Is that not allowed?

Kamiso Sat 15-Aug-20 11:51:07

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

MaizieD Sat 15-Aug-20 11:31:45

Remains to be seen how Starmer will do

This is what is bugging me. It does remain to be seen.

But in the meantime it's just being assumed that Starmer is tory-lite. I'm not sure why. Perhaps someone could explain..

Iam64 Sat 15-Aug-20 09:00:06

Thanks MaizeD
Dinhamo, couldn't agree with you more.

Grany Sat 15-Aug-20 08:44:16

I agree with what Grandad1943 says

Big donors are coming back to Labour under Keir Starmer.

This is what Labour supporters people are saying

Alice Liddell He will change nothing. He is the Establishment’s ‘maintain the status quo’ pin up boy. Fundamental change is what is needed, not cosmetic tinkering. We had that before. If you don’t change the foundations of how our society is constructed, as a Labour government you are a waste of space. You want liberal tinkering, go and campaign and vote for the Lib Dems. A Labour government must be much more radical.

Remains to be seen how Starmer will do

Meanwhile the Tory government continues bad to worse

Grany Fri 14-Aug-20 19:54:07

I just noticed that #ToryShambles is trending. Can't imagine what triggered that confused

varian Fri 14-Aug-20 16:10:01

France decided to go for teacher assessed end-of-school grades, and created 10,000 extra uni places, so no-one of this generation will miss out. That’s a “proper country”. England, in contrast, is a “make-do-and-mend” country

Simon Hix
@simonjhix
Political Science Professor. LSE Pro-Director for Research. FBA FRSA. Chair of VoteWatch.eu.