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Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

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westendgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 12:13:28

Look at the disruptions of recent days;
Exam results and fudged response from Education secretary , passing the buck,stretching the truth about when he really knew about the algorithm,

increase in covid figures
;
Migrants in small boats and Patel's response,

News of contract to work on Ofqual awarded to long term associates of Gove and Cummings without tender.

Not removing whip from MP accused of rape.

So it goes on .Surely a P.M worth his salt should give the nation the impression he is in charge.As usual Johnson is nowhere to be seen.

Jabberwok Thu 20-Aug-20 16:49:46

Whose visited the most towns? What else has KS got to do, apart from PMQ's?! He's not exactly responsible for, or running anything! or is it a competition?!

Jabberwok Thu 20-Aug-20 16:46:56

Not sure Northern Ireland was a holiday!!!! I think he's been twice in the last 7 months counting this one. FGS, he's only in Scotland, hardly the other side of the world! As for his time in hospital!! Anyone who is unsure of the circumstances, Google it and find out for yourselves, as I just can't be bothered to go over it yet again!! When has it become the case that P.M's can NEVER take a holiday?!! or does this sudden requirement only apply to Boris?! Most people expect three or four in the space of 12 months, abroad! There really are some weird comments on here!

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 16:46:00

JenniferEccles

Not when he’s on holiday, no and not even when he is back working.

We don’t need to see him constantly do we?

We are not toddlers!

He obviously thinks we are.

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 16:45:26

From 3-13 August, Starmer visited:

Falmouth
Stoke
Broughton
Camden
Peterborough
Wakfield
Barnsley
Darlington

Greeneyedgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 16:35:19

He should indeed be visible, particularly when the country lurches from one crisis to another, and inept ministers are left to carry the can.
Today it is exam results, tomorrow homelessness, Ms Sturgeon at least shows decisive leadership and appears weekly to give a lucid update. Scotland has also extended the eviction ban.

JenniferEccles Thu 20-Aug-20 16:34:36

Not when he’s on holiday, no and not even when he is back working.

We don’t need to see him constantly do we?

We are not toddlers!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Aug-20 16:32:33

He was in Northern Ireland six days ago, if you want to see him the video is on Google and I assume UTube.

Pantglas2 Thu 20-Aug-20 16:32:07

Of course, up to a point - as should teachers......! I can recall seeing teachers everywhere during my school days but rarely saw the headmaster- I didn’t assume he was skiving!

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 16:29:17

Should a leader not be visible?

Pantglas2 Thu 20-Aug-20 16:26:37

I don’t understand the obsession with seeing the Prime Minister - nobody saw teachers ( amongst others) for months but we’ve been reliably informed that they were working the whole time. Different standards, much?

varian Thu 20-Aug-20 16:25:25

How many holidays has he had this year?

JenniferEccles Thu 20-Aug-20 16:20:45

Doesn’t it make sense to have a PM who is properly rested, ready to deal with whatever comes next in this awful year?

For goodness sake don’t begrudge him a holiday after everything he’s been through.

Whether you like him or not, it’s in no one’s interest to have an exhausted PM at the helm at the best of times, and these are certainly not the best of times are they?

He’s doing what he said he would do - supporting our own tourist industry rather than jetting off to a luxury villa in the Med, much as he would probably prefer that !

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Aug-20 16:16:56

Jaxjacky we have a very dear friend who has had several young male refugees living with them, some good some bad, some stories they told were able to be verified many were not, nevertheless the stories were horrific.

Jaxjacky Thu 20-Aug-20 16:13:37

I doubt the PM is out of contact and probably spends a good part of his days in various virtual ‘meetings’ if he was more physically visible he’d probably be derided for something or other as would most politicians.
Greeneyedgirl your comments remind of a Bob Geldolf and others who offered to house refugees a few years ago, never happened, all PR. How many people with spare rooms/multiple properties would seriously, actually, house a homeless person or refugee?

sparklingsilver28 Thu 20-Aug-20 16:03:56

Starmer has been tweeting quite furiously about it.

And therein lies the problem. He needs to put himself about in a much wider sphere than Twitter if he is serious about becoming Prime Minister. Many voters do not subscribe to the nonsense of social media.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Aug-20 16:03:54

vegansrock

You don’t think Johnson actually tweets himself do you?

Do you think that Keir Starmer writes and sends his own tweets?

vegansrock Thu 20-Aug-20 16:01:56

You don’t think Johnson actually tweets himself do you?

Daddima Thu 20-Aug-20 16:00:30

Gwyneth

I do think Boris deserves a break despite public opinion of him. He was very ill and men are now entitled to paternity leave so why not Boris?

Boris was ‘very ill’? So why did the reports that he was ‘in good spirits’ and ‘playing Sudoko and joking with staff’, and that all his treatment was ‘precautionary’ suddenly change to him being at death’s door, and plans being made to deal with his demise?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Aug-20 15:59:04

Three tweets on Keir Starmers that I can see on his time line growstuff regarding homelessness and the lifting of the ban on evictions, one of those was yesterday.

Boris Johnson has been tweeting regarding the sentencing of the brother of the Manchester Arena bomber, so he is around.

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 15:50:47

Greeneyedgirl

It is indeed very sad that in a wealthy country such as ours many renters through no fault of their own, may become homeless, as the period of temporary eviction ban ends in a few days time. Jenrick has made no move to extend the ban, but there again he doesn’t fear ever being homeless. Hasn’t he got 3 homes, perhaps he is planning to offer accommodation to some of the families who will face eviction.

Starmer has been tweeting quite furiously about it.

sparklingsilver28 Thu 20-Aug-20 15:49:19

My take on Boris Johnson, and yes, I did vote for him, is lack of experience like the rest of his government. He and his government live in the protected bubble of Westminster and have no understanding or knowledge of how most of the British nation live.

My observation of government response in this pandemic is lack of experience and a really serious issue. Ministers running departments for which they have neither experience nor more importantly common-sense practical ability. A university degree does not make you an expert on all or any given topic – it is simply a measure of formal education ability. Years ago, a good education started you on the second rung of the ladder and you worked your way up gaining experience. I once read the greatest WW2 British Spy was a man originally working as a warehouse labourer in Suffolk.

From where I sit, government ministers should have served their apprenticeship in the real world for at least 20 years before being eligible to become a minister. And able to demonstrate by record an achieving progression throughout the period.

Greeneyedgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 15:47:22

It is indeed very sad that in a wealthy country such as ours many renters through no fault of their own, may become homeless, as the period of temporary eviction ban ends in a few days time. Jenrick has made no move to extend the ban, but there again he doesn’t fear ever being homeless. Hasn’t he got 3 homes, perhaps he is planning to offer accommodation to some of the families who will face eviction.

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 15:25:15

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-eviction-ban-expiration-renters-housing-keir-starmer-a9678386.html

growstuff Thu 20-Aug-20 15:23:22

Writing in the Mirror today:

Homeless children hit 14-year high as 130,000 stuck in B&Bs and temporary shelter
Some 129,380 children were in temporary accommodation on March 31 - the highest figure recorded since summer 2006

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-homeless-children-hit-14-22550658

Greeneyedgirl Thu 20-Aug-20 15:20:21

Who’s Boris??