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A group has been created with the aim of removing the government

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Grany Fri 21-Aug-20 08:54:39

This government is useless in everything they are doing or not doing. Demonstrations have not been effective. So an online group has been created which it hopes can spread gain millions of people with aim of then saying look we want to remove this useless government.

So what do GNetters think could this work?

Colin Blakemore

I am creating A group of like minded individuals to remove the government

remove-the-tory-government.mn.co/posts/7581420?utm_source=manual&fbclid=IwAR2Nii9jMWIx_P9tkGczfw0xXmVWo34lUDnUwoJ1IZiFSDanxeXmX1XyV5k

Grany Fri 21-Aug-20 10:55:46

This is what they say
This is a new group.

1. What is the plan?

In a democracy the government must do what the majority want. The current government’s “majority” is actually a minority of 37% of the electorate. If enough people (>50% of the electorate) can be brought together the government would have no choice but back down! The government would then be replaced by a Temporary National Coalition government who would implement an electoral system of proportional representation. All we need is for everyone to join together! I know it’s a big goal, but it’s not impossible!

2. How can a government with a “huge majority” be removed?

The answer to this question is, “with a huge majority!” ? What you have to realise is that this government’s “huge majority” is nothing of the sort! They won their 80 seat majority with only 37% of the electorate vote! That means that 63% did NOT vote for them! I.e. a “huge majority” of the UK electorate did NOT vote for the Tories, they either didn’t vote, or they voted for someone else! The fact is that the majority of the electorate actually voted for parties who would have given a second referendum on Brexit, but because of the First Past The Post electoral system we have, it was possible for the Tories to win the election. So, if we can get the majority of the electorate to join us we can demand in one voice that they relinquish power. Any government faced by a REAL majority opposing them would be wise to concede because the alternative could be revolution or civil war! I therefore believe that if we can prove that the real majority of the electorate do not want this Tory government, then they can be removed.

Davidhs Fri 21-Aug-20 10:54:31

Optimism has no bounds, they is no way the Tories are going to be moved until the next election, maybe there will be a change of leader, maybe a softening of policies if we are lucky.

The very best hope is a credible opposition at the next election.

growstuff Fri 21-Aug-20 10:43:15

quizqueen

What I think is... that the Lefties of the world have no respect for democracy.

Last 4 UK elections...lost
EU referendum ...lost
Scotland referendum...lost
USA Democrats ...lost
the last 2 European Elections .....lost

I don't think you quite understand democracy. It doesn't cease to exist when there's no election.

growstuff Fri 21-Aug-20 10:41:49

Anniebach

I thought the only way to remove a government was a general
election , silly me

In theory, governments can be removed for other reasons - if, for example, they lose their overall majority.

I would be absolutely amazed if Johnson makes it to the next general election. The Conservatives themselves will replace him.

sf101 Fri 21-Aug-20 10:38:34

Cloud cuckoo land !!!!

Anniebach Fri 21-Aug-20 10:34:57

I thought the only way to remove a government was a general
election , silly me

lemongrove Fri 21-Aug-20 10:32:24

..but all can be won again by an online petition QQ ?

quizqueen Fri 21-Aug-20 10:29:40

What I think is... that the Lefties of the world have no respect for democracy.

Last 4 UK elections...lost
EU referendum ...lost
Scotland referendum...lost
USA Democrats ...lost
the last 2 European Elections .....lost

MsSafina Fri 21-Aug-20 10:29:18

Let's replace them with Mr Legohead and the Marxist Party.

henetha Fri 21-Aug-20 10:28:47

Absolutely not. Like them or not, the government were democratically elected and we must wait until the next general election to vote them in again, or out.

Jabberwok Fri 21-Aug-20 10:25:41

Depends on the independent definition of the common good? Different people have different ideas as to what that is! Arguments before you even begin!

Ramblingrose22 Fri 21-Aug-20 10:25:08

Grany - exactly how do they propose to bring about the removal of this Government?

It's all very well to deplore, deplore, deplore but what can they really do?

Jabberwok Fri 21-Aug-20 10:23:17

Someone better? Who knows, Boris was elected especially for Brexit which he will see through, after that? Rishi Sunak anyone?!!!

Illte Fri 21-Aug-20 10:19:23

Sounds reasonable. I hoped for a kind of coalition in this situation. Everybody working together for the common good.

Who would chose the members of the Coalition? How would that be done?

Jabberwok Fri 21-Aug-20 10:18:24

What a good idea lemon!!?. Every time a government is unpopular, get up a petition to overthrow it!! No need for any GE's ever again! (Those pesky peasant votes would be a thing of the past,) You could have a petition two, three times a year!! All change, tickets please!!!
Blimey, what next!!

growstuff Fri 21-Aug-20 10:18:02

The people who will remove Johnson are from within the Conservative Party. They're keen on holding on to their seats, so they'll get rid of him when they think he's a vote loser and if they think they've found somebody better.

growstuff Fri 21-Aug-20 10:14:30

25Avalon

Anarchy. Soros will be pleased at the overthrow of democracy. Probably funding it.

You should give up reading online conspiracy theories. Read Maizie's link.

Grany Fri 21-Aug-20 10:13:44

They say

Let’s work together to remove this corrupt Tory government as soon as possible, replacing it with a Temporary National Coalition Government with a remit to implement a new Proportional Representation electoral system.

lemongrove Fri 21-Aug-20 10:04:27

BlueBelle

Democracy lemongrove please don’t make me crack my cheeks the word democracy was lost a few years ago with these Undemocratic chumps leading the way

Well....let’s just have online petitions instead of General Elections shall we? Then if the outcome still doesn’t suit you, we’ll have another petition etc etc.

ginny Fri 21-Aug-20 10:00:18

As above
Do they have someone who has all the answers ?

Illte Fri 21-Aug-20 09:54:49

Just out of interest Grany what would we have in its place?

That's a real question not just a stirring if the pot.

MaizieD Fri 21-Aug-20 09:53:21

Have you encountered the 3.5%, Grany?

MaizieD Fri 21-Aug-20 09:52:14

25Avalon

Anarchy. Soros will be pleased at the overthrow of democracy. Probably funding it.

I recommend that you read this, Avalon. Very carefully

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hnsgrassegger/george-soros-conspiracy-finkelstein-birnbaum-orban-netanyahu

Grandad1943 Fri 21-Aug-20 09:46:46

It would be pleasant to think that over eighty Tory MPs would stand up to the Ultra Right within the House of Commons, however, I feel that is very unlikely to happen.

All those with the backbone to stand up to Johnson were thrown out of the Commons and party prior to the final Brexit vote.

Those that were brought in to replace the above MPs in the General Election are through and through Johnson people. They may make noises but action I very much do not expect to witness.

BlueBelle Fri 21-Aug-20 09:20:33

Democracy lemongrove please don’t make me crack my cheeks the word democracy was lost a few years ago with these Undemocratic chumps leading the way