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Harassing migrants by the far right

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Aug-20 06:51:55

Video footage has emerged of members of a far right group entering a place of safety and refuge for migrants and showing them knocking on doors saying that as tax payers they have every right to question these people.

It sent shivers down my spine as it seemed to echo the behaviour in 1930s Germany.

trisher Sun 30-Aug-20 10:28:17

I spoke to the police about these videos being on the website. The police are aware of what is happening and are monitoring the hotels in case of trouble. Unfortunately the videos themselves cannot be classed as hate crime. I do find it ironic that these right wingers who claim to support the police are in fact creating more work for them.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-Aug-20 08:12:17

Police have said that the far right are targeting migrants and Asians saying that they are spreading the virus in the U.K.

Hate crime is on the rise existentially.

Police chiefs are concerned.

We must be very careful in our use of language I think as I have seen posts accusing immigrants etc of spreading the virus on GN.

It has to stop.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-Aug-20 06:11:53

growstuff

I don't think Cummings would ever get off the pedestal on which he's placed himself to get his hands that dirty. He's a member of a different mob, which will just turn a blind eye while dog whistling.

Britain First, the EDL and the rest of them should do some research and find out what the Nazis did to Ernest Röhm when the Nazis needed a scapegoat.

No true, but after seeing that programme I can see that he has more in common with Farage, and the white supremicists.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-Aug-20 06:05:57

Greeneyedgirl

I think it’s the insidious rise of far right ideology I find even more worrying, than their cowardly threats against immigrants.
Most right minded people are compassionate and abhor the hate and sometimes violence shown to asylum seekers who are fleeing similar and much worse in their own country.
What really is concerning is the far right’s gradual move into the margins of politics, seeking to move the Overton window, so that racism begins to be accepted as part of the norm in mainstream politics. I think this is apparent in the rise of populism in many countries including U.K. and how it appeared in the Brexit campaigning.

Absolutely agree with your post.

Eloethan Sat 29-Aug-20 23:53:52

I would much prefer to retain the immigrants and wave goodbye to these despicable home grown bullies who appear to have nothing better to do with their lives than spread their poison.

Greeneyedgirl Sat 29-Aug-20 20:32:18

I think it’s the insidious rise of far right ideology I find even more worrying, than their cowardly threats against immigrants.
Most right minded people are compassionate and abhor the hate and sometimes violence shown to asylum seekers who are fleeing similar and much worse in their own country.
What really is concerning is the far right’s gradual move into the margins of politics, seeking to move the Overton window, so that racism begins to be accepted as part of the norm in mainstream politics. I think this is apparent in the rise of populism in many countries including U.K. and how it appeared in the Brexit campaigning.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 20:12:08

I don't think Cummings would ever get off the pedestal on which he's placed himself to get his hands that dirty. He's a member of a different mob, which will just turn a blind eye while dog whistling.

Britain First, the EDL and the rest of them should do some research and find out what the Nazis did to Ernest Röhm when the Nazis needed a scapegoat.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Aug-20 19:48:45

growstuff

I apologise for taking the thread off track, but I find the rise of the far right insidious. It has links with Farage and some in the Conservative Party, which makes it on the edge of the main stream.

After watching Taking Control about Cummings, I would certainly include him as part of the mob. And he is next to the highest power in the country.

My god it is worrying.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 19:32:52

Two Britain First members have been arrested after entering a hotel housing asylum seekers in Coventry. Good! At least the police have done something.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 19:22:26

Britain First are part of that and have links with the BNP.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 19:21:05

I apologise for taking the thread off track, but I find the rise of the far right insidious. It has links with Farage and some in the Conservative Party, which makes it on the edge of the main stream.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 19:18:39

The British Union of Fascists is a banned organisation and it's illegal to display the flag, but it seems to have been taken over by the New British Union, which (so far) has escaped being banned. The police took no action against it today.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Aug-20 19:16:46

growstuff I hadn’t seen that. I still think the media depending on what you read/watch shows items relevant to their agenda.

Getting the thread back on track it is obvious that all on here find the actions of the few odious.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 19:07:38

The BUF flag was real, as were the QAnon placards.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 19:06:49

GrannyGravy13

growstuff did you also see the nurses with our hospital beds are empty placard?

The media is manipulating what it shows, that includes print media from all sides.

Yes, I did and she's not a nurse. She's a care worker for a private company. Maybe the beds where she works are empty because the former patients are dead.

Sorry, but it's all over Twitter. She and the company she works for have been named.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Aug-20 18:57:27

growstuff did you also see the nurses with our hospital beds are empty placard?

The media is manipulating what it shows, that includes print media from all sides.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 18:39:17

paddyanne

Asfar as I can see Far right and conservative = Britain first ..or what used to be National Front .Its all the same ideals just wrapped differently.
The treatment of the sick.disabled ,elderly,unemployed .immigrants by the Conservatives over the past 10 years is clearly the same ethos that these small minded bigots are showing in their harrassment of innocent people who have suffered enough .WE NEED immigrants .they're not taking anyones jobs or houses or schools ..Get the government to solve the problems you have they created them not immigrants !

They're the rump of the BNP not National Front ... same difference, I know.

Slightly off-topic, the British Union of Fascists flag was on display at the Trafalgar Square "anti-mask" rally today.

LauraNorder Sat 29-Aug-20 18:19:01

Whitewavemark2

Video footage has emerged of members of a far right group entering a place of safety and refuge for migrants and showing them knocking on doors saying that as tax payers they have every right to question these people.

It sent shivers down my spine as it seemed to echo the behaviour in 1930s Germany.

It is disgusting behaviour by extremists in our midst. We do need to fight against all forms of racism and all other hate crimes no matter who the perpetrator.

paddyanne Sat 29-Aug-20 18:08:12

Asfar as I can see Far right and conservative = Britain first ..or what used to be National Front .Its all the same ideals just wrapped differently.
The treatment of the sick.disabled ,elderly,unemployed .immigrants by the Conservatives over the past 10 years is clearly the same ethos that these small minded bigots are showing in their harrassment of innocent people who have suffered enough .WE NEED immigrants .they're not taking anyones jobs or houses or schools ..Get the government to solve the problems you have they created them not immigrants !

Callistemon Sat 29-Aug-20 17:21:27

You're backtracking now.

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 17:20:40

Callistemon : 'biba your posts are deliberately provocative'

how, and why? Racism is not simply about left and right and exclusivity. What is a 'political persuasion' - people try to over-simplify and my post was addressing that. But there is no denying that the alt right is very closely linked to racism.

My friends cannot be classified as extreme left at all - and no, none of them are racists. If they were, they are no longer friends.

Callistemon Sat 29-Aug-20 17:11:13

Oopsminty

Love Banksy

Ship is experiencing problems apparently

Over loaded and it's been reporterd that one person has died

I think it is overcrowded now because it went to the rescue of another boat in difficulties which had one dead person on board.

On Friday morning, the crew posted on the boat's official Twitter page that they had rescued 89 people, including 14 women and four children, and were seeking a place of safety for them to disembark.
That evening, it said it lent assistance to another overcrowded boat, which was filling with water, had a dead body on board and many more suffering fuel burns.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 17:09:11

EllanVannin

I'd say it's quite insulting !!

In what way?

There aren't many people who could deny that Britain First are racists.

What would you prefer instead of "saddo"? Loser? Slob? Waster? Bum?

Callistemon Sat 29-Aug-20 17:06:23

Furret

FHS some are so busy arguing among themselves that the main point, ultra right thuggery, has been side-lined.

Deplorable. Britain first are racist saddos.

Yes, Furret
Just as you say, the ultra-right thugs.
They need to be stopped. People come here for sanctuary.

biba your posts are deliberately provocative and are red herrings.

EllanVannin Sat 29-Aug-20 17:03:15

I'd say it's quite insulting !!