Harassing migrants by the far right

growstuff did you also see the nurses with our hospital beds are empty placard?

The media is manipulating what it shows, that includes print media from all sides.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff did you also see the nurses with our hospital beds are empty placard?

The media is manipulating what it shows, that includes print media from all sides.

Yes, I did and she's not a nurse. She's a care worker for a private company. Maybe the beds where she works are empty because the former patients are dead.

Sorry, but it's all over Twitter. She and the company she works for have been named.

The BUF flag was real, as were the QAnon placards.

growstuff I hadn’t seen that. I still think the media depending on what you read/watch shows items relevant to their agenda.

Getting the thread back on track it is obvious that all on here find the actions of the few odious.

The British Union of Fascists is a banned organisation and it's illegal to display the flag, but it seems to have been taken over by the New British Union, which (so far) has escaped being banned. The police took no action against it today.

I apologise for taking the thread off track, but I find the rise of the far right insidious. It has links with Farage and some in the Conservative Party, which makes it on the edge of the main stream.

Britain First are part of that and have links with the BNP.

Two Britain First members have been arrested after entering a hotel housing asylum seekers in Coventry. Good! At least the police have done something.

growstuff

I apologise for taking the thread off track, but I find the rise of the far right insidious. It has links with Farage and some in the Conservative Party, which makes it on the edge of the main stream.

After watching Taking Control about Cummings, I would certainly include him as part of the mob. And he is next to the highest power in the country.

My god it is worrying.

I don't think Cummings would ever get off the pedestal on which he's placed himself to get his hands that dirty. He's a member of a different mob, which will just turn a blind eye while dog whistling.

Britain First, the EDL and the rest of them should do some research and find out what the Nazis did to Ernest Röhm when the Nazis needed a scapegoat.

I think it’s the insidious rise of far right ideology I find even more worrying, than their cowardly threats against immigrants.
Most right minded people are compassionate and abhor the hate and sometimes violence shown to asylum seekers who are fleeing similar and much worse in their own country.
What really is concerning is the far right’s gradual move into the margins of politics, seeking to move the Overton window, so that racism begins to be accepted as part of the norm in mainstream politics. I think this is apparent in the rise of populism in many countries including U.K. and how it appeared in the Brexit campaigning.

I would much prefer to retain the immigrants and wave goodbye to these despicable home grown bullies who appear to have nothing better to do with their lives than spread their poison.

Greeneyedgirl

I think it’s the insidious rise of far right ideology I find even more worrying, than their cowardly threats against immigrants.
Most right minded people are compassionate and abhor the hate and sometimes violence shown to asylum seekers who are fleeing similar and much worse in their own country.
What really is concerning is the far right’s gradual move into the margins of politics, seeking to move the Overton window, so that racism begins to be accepted as part of the norm in mainstream politics. I think this is apparent in the rise of populism in many countries including U.K. and how it appeared in the Brexit campaigning.

Absolutely agree with your post.

growstuff

I don't think Cummings would ever get off the pedestal on which he's placed himself to get his hands that dirty. He's a member of a different mob, which will just turn a blind eye while dog whistling.

Britain First, the EDL and the rest of them should do some research and find out what the Nazis did to Ernest Röhm when the Nazis needed a scapegoat.

No true, but after seeing that programme I can see that he has more in common with Farage, and the white supremicists.

Police have said that the far right are targeting migrants and Asians saying that they are spreading the virus in the U.K.

Hate crime is on the rise existentially.

Police chiefs are concerned.

We must be very careful in our use of language I think as I have seen posts accusing immigrants etc of spreading the virus on GN.

It has to stop.

I spoke to the police about these videos being on the website. The police are aware of what is happening and are monitoring the hotels in case of trouble. Unfortunately the videos themselves cannot be classed as hate crime. I do find it ironic that these right wingers who claim to support the police are in fact creating more work for them.

The British People's Party was formed in 1939 by Labour party member John Beckett-----and so began years and years of newly formed idiot groups .
Beckett and his party campaigned against the Second World War as they continued until 1954.

Would everyone have agreed to Germany taking over this country ? This is what it amounted to in those times.

So don't blame it all on the Conservatives, as this lot ( above ) had a good run for their money.
Of all the groups that have been formed since---including splinter groups, the above Labour group lasted the longest, so check your history before you start mouthing off.

I have just seen pictures of the flag in question and Piers Corbyn is holding it, I was not aware that he was far right

The media have a lot to answer for with their continual broadcasts of various protests taking place. This is what's creating the unprecedented violence in this country. Paps are there ready for any violence taking place to record and re-record causing unnecessary frenzy among those already hyped up just to pip each other at the post for the most violent-looking situation for front page news. Only thing on their minds is mega-bucks !!

The anti-vaxers will be on cue as will the airport disruptors tomorrow. More unnecessary work for the police, eh, trisher ??

I have just seen pictures of the flag in question and Piers Corbyn is holding it, I was not aware that he was far right

Is he anything specific except a perennial protestor? David Icke was there too. That gave the protest a lot of credibility, didn't it!

I feel sorry for the police, protestors were trying to hug them. If they wish to ignore advice then anyone becoming ill has only themselves to blame but don't try to inflict germs on someone trying to do a difficult job.

It seemed to be a protest about many things, Anti-masks/face coverings, anti lockdown along with anti-vaccine.

The met police have enough on their plate breaking up illegal raves and gatherings without yesterday’s protest.

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Britain in the 1930s
Millions of lives lost to rid ourselves of that scourge.

And Britain today. We must fight against the same scourge just as hard

Please don't conflict the Labour Party with any of these fascist or neo-Nazi organisations. John Beckett left the Labour Party in 1934 and joined the British Union of Fascists. He was firmly rejected by the people who had elected him MP for Gateshead when he was in the ILP. Beckett however struggled to reconnect with his former supporters on the Left and in 1934 when he returned to Gateshead and Newcastle upon Tyne for speaking engagements he was met with large hostile crowds and shouts of "Traitor. He was forced to cancel one such speaking engagement near Newcastle on 13 May 1934 when a crowd of around 1,000 anti-fascists rushed the stage on which he was due to speak.
The Labour Party has always fought against fascism.

EllanVannin

The British People's Party was formed in 1939 by Labour party member John Beckett-----and so began years and years of newly formed idiot groups .
Beckett and his party campaigned against the Second World War as they continued until 1954.

Would everyone have agreed to Germany taking over this country ? This is what it amounted to in those times.

So don't blame it all on the Conservatives, as this lot ( above ) had a good run for their money.
Of all the groups that have been formed since---including splinter groups, the above Labour group lasted the longest, so check your history before you start mouthing off.

Excuse me! Who's mouthing off?

There have been other groups and their splinter groups which have lasted much longer ... and, yes, I have "checked" my history. I was interested enough in extremist fringe politics to study it as part of an Open University degree.

Neo-Nazi/Fascist groups have been far more numerous and influential over the last 100 years than socialist/left-wing group ever has been.

It's rumoured yesterday's march was financed by QAnon, which is a shadowy neo-Nazi conspiracy theory group. They're anti-establishment, which explains the presence of Icke and Piers Corbyn. If you look at some of the pictures of the placards, you'll see Q on some of them

Mosley was also originally a Labour MP. Don't forget that Fascism started off as an anti-imperialism ideology, which is what attracted socialists, who were against the imperialism and ruling classes of the day.