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Journalism has reached a new low

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Cindersdad Mon 07-Sep-20 07:40:36

On Saturday my normal weekly Daily Mail, for its TV Magazine was not available due to industrial action. That was unfortunate and resulted in my getting the Daily Express instead. The paper had a much inferior TV Magazine. The Daily Mail right wing though it may be is not as servile as the Daily Express.

My main issue is with their almost grovelling subservience to Boris Johnson. The front page assured us the Britain will prosper after Brexit according to Boris with no word of question. Inside there was a further article complaining that Remainers were denying democracy by not agreeing with Brexit.

The final insult was no letters section to state an alternative point of view. If our government and certain areas of the media are so convinced in their policy why are they not open to hnoest debate. The BBC which used to be politcally neutral stops open criticism of government or healthy satire.

Ministers refuse to talk to ITV or other media outlets who question them. I know I'm vhemently anti Brexit and think that "Project Fear" will probably become an waful "Project Reality" at the end of the year. Who will challenge the Johnson, Gove, Cummings cabale who have destroyed the Conservative Party, Parliamentary Democracy and are well on the way to destroying the country.

Furret Mon 07-Sep-20 07:51:32

Sadly it’s too late now. Those who voted this government in just to ‘Get Brexit Done’ will soon find out what they have unleashed.

LullyDully Mon 07-Sep-20 08:20:55

I just admit we only get the Mail on Saturday for the TV paper but mostly for the big crossword. Certainly horror the opinions. Then the Times free from Waitrose which also has a large crossword. Sad life eh?

Lucca Mon 07-Sep-20 08:21:57

* The BBC which used to be politcally neutral stops open criticism of government or healthy satire.*
And yet there are those who say the BBC is full of “lefties”?

Lucca Mon 07-Sep-20 08:22:57

Nowt wrong with crosswords Lullydully !

lemongrove Mon 07-Sep-20 08:41:51

It wasn’t due to ‘ industrial action’ OP ( that you didn’t get your newspaper) it was due to the Extinction Rebellion nitwits blocking the roads around the newspaper buildings.
Never mind, you will be back happily reading the DM next week.

lemongrove Mon 07-Sep-20 08:42:59

The Saturday Times has a great selection of crosswords and puzzles.

EllanVannin Mon 07-Sep-20 10:43:33

I was a regular reader of the Sunday Express once upon a time, especially for their giant crossword which I religiously filled in and posted. After not winning a sausage and noticing that winners were mostly Southern, I never bought another one.
It was probably when they saw a Merseyside post-mark that they didn't think it was worthwhile opening it so threw it straight into the out basket. They can stick their newspaper !

MaizieD Mon 07-Sep-20 11:07:16

To return to the OP.

I don't think it's a new low. The Express has been like that for a long time.

I read a comment recently that journalists don't necessarily believe in the stuff they write. It's what the editor/owner wants. They just do it to keep the food on the table..

Alegrias Mon 07-Sep-20 11:19:28

The standard of journalism in the last few months (years?) has been terrible. I really don't understand what they are trying to achieve. I don't think its a plot but I do think most journalists have forgotten how to report news properly.

I've been looking at the words the press have used to describe how Covid cases are changing. So far, we've had surging, mushrooming, ballooning, and my favourite - galloping! When cases go down, why do they never plummet? Or even just stabilise?

ayse Mon 07-Sep-20 11:31:51

Maybe journalists are not allowed to put a different point of view to that of their editor? I do not consider the BBC anymore as giving anything like a debate on current affairs. The radio is marginally more informative.

I agree that these days there is little debate within the mainstream media about anything very much. In addition to listening or watching mainstream media I look at The Canary, Al Jazeera amongst others.

I’m pretty certain now that the coming tsunami of Brexit will be blamed on Covid and the EU. Most of mainstream media will ring their hands but not criticise the current government.

IMO, democracy in the USA, Australia and the UK is severely under threat and NOT from the left!

25Avalon Mon 07-Sep-20 11:34:23

Years ago when I was at uni we had the so called ‘milk round’ when employers came to talk to 3rd years about jobs. I remember the newspaper faction telling me the style of writing was the same if it was The Times or The Sun and that articles didn’t have to reflect any political stance for their readership.

This seemed a blatant lie to me and I haven’t trusted a newspaper since! I read online papers with different viewpoints and on a Saturday I take The Western Daily Press which has regional and national news and a TV guide pull out.

varian Mon 07-Sep-20 11:37:15

I agree Maizie the Express had an "anti-Common Market" campaign running in the 1960s. It was owned for many years by pornographer Richard Desmond, was always fauned over "celebs", loves sex scandals and requires a very low reading age.

Its vile political propaganda has always been very right wing. There has never been any attempt at balance. Nothing favourable to any party other that the Tories, UKIP, Brexit Party, is ever reported. It would be hard for the Express to sink much lower.

varian Mon 07-Sep-20 11:40:34

Although many people do not buy newspapers, their influence is still invidious. Analysis of factors affecting voting in the fraudulent referendum of 2016 showed the newspaper readership was the most powerful influencing factor and the Express had the highest proportion of their readers voting to leave.

Gwyneth Mon 07-Sep-20 11:41:57

Many Saturday papers don’t have a letters page. I usually buy the Mail on a Saturday because the TV magazine is definitely the best. Yes the Express and Mail are right wing but doesn’t everyone know that? If you want an alternative viewpoint read the Mirror and the Guardian who provide a left wing view. I usually buy two papers on a Sunday one of each political viewpoint so as to make my own judgements.

ayse Mon 07-Sep-20 11:45:03

I buy the Mail on Saturday for the TV guide and glance at the paper but that’s all. It’s definitely the best TV guide.